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    • JoergS5undefined
      JoergS5 @bondus
      last edited by JoergS5

      @bondus I know the matrix calculations, but I wanted to develop the algorithms from scratch and to have additional parameters like bending.

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      • JoergS5undefined
        JoergS5 @tony73
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        @tony73 you seem to have set G90 at the end of your homing file.

        I'll check your procedure with my prototype tomorrow.

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        • tony73undefined
          tony73 @JoergS5
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          @JoergS5

          good morning ! I wait until you are done with the test robot, I stop asking you questions because I only make you confused!

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          • tony73undefined
            tony73 @JoergS5
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            @JoergS5

            Hello! did you manage to do the tests with the robot?

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            • JoergS5undefined
              JoergS5 @tony73
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              @tony73 I'm not finished building. I'm sorry, but I cannot plan how long building a prototype takes. I had design faults, which show up when building.

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              • tony73undefined
                tony73 @JoergS5
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                @JoergS5

                ok! I try to contact you on the weekend, see you soon!

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                • JoergS5undefined
                  JoergS5 @tony73
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                  @tony73 thanks for your patience!

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                  • tony73undefined
                    tony73 @JoergS5
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                    @JoergS5

                    Hello ! how is the construction of the robot going? did you manage to finish it and test with the firmware?

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                    • JoergS5undefined
                      JoergS5 @tony73
                      last edited by JoergS5

                      @tony73 I had other tasks during the week. But I have solutions for my design problems now and proceed at the weekend.

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                      • tony73undefined
                        tony73 @JoergS5
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                        @JoergS5
                        ok! I wait to see, I'm glad to know that you have overcome the problems of building the robot!

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                        • JoergS5undefined
                          JoergS5 @tony73
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                          This post is deleted!
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                          • tony73undefined
                            tony73 @JoergS5
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                            @JoergS5

                            how's the work going? I had read the post you deleted, I am waiting to see your robot, you say that it is very stable I could take it slow and build it if you release the construction schemes and reduction ratios. I have not tried to build anything even if I would like to try to see how the firmware behaves, I prefer to wait for your answers!

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                            • JoergS5undefined
                              JoergS5 @tony73
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                              @tony73 I did delete the post, because I didn't want to tell you what to do. You should decide yourself. (and as I said, you'll get all the information I have. I learned a lot about manufacturing the last days also)

                              I have new design problems, the arms were too heavy for the steppers. But I have solved it with counterweights, so it's proceeding. The printer is in fact very stiff, I expect good print results. Current status is, I have to redesign actuator 2 (it was in the way of the arm 2 movement ;-( ).

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                              • tony73undefined
                                tony73 @JoergS5
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                                @JoergS5

                                ok! I try to contact you in a few days!

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                                • JoergS5undefined
                                  JoergS5 @tony73
                                  last edited by JoergS5

                                  @tony73 I have a prototype now, not ideal, but working to validate the firmware. (The M114 was not wrong)

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                                  • tony73undefined
                                    tony73 @JoergS5
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                                    @JoergS5
                                    did you make a prototype with 5 actuators plus an extruder for 3d printing?

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                                    • JoergS5undefined
                                      JoergS5 @tony73
                                      last edited by JoergS5

                                      @tony73 5 actuators yes, extruder not yet*). I have a weakness in specifications: when arm 5 rotates to the left (180 degree eg), arm 3 can be in the way for the hotend+extruder if arm 3 is "flat".

                                      *) my robot has a very low payload. I still have to learn a lot about how to optimize gear ratios, counterweight and belt tension, to get a good solution. This is quite different from developing the firmware!

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                                      • JoergS5undefined
                                        JoergS5
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                                        I have some images of my first pre-Prototype, before I will reconstruct it:

                                        preprototype1.jpg

                                        preprototype2.jpg

                                        preprototype3.jpg

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                                        • JoergS5undefined
                                          JoergS5
                                          last edited by JoergS5

                                          The first idea was to place Axis 1 behind the construction. This seemed to be a good idea because the axis is fixed at two points top and down and can be calibrated easily. But the disadvantages are, I have no good place to install actuator 2 and the counterweights have not much room also.

                                          Arm 2 and 3 are 27 cm and 20 cm long. For production the same length will be better, but I differed them to test firmware.

                                          The gears are insufficient. One stepper has a 1:27 gear, but the problem is the little 60 teeth pulley which is not sufficient. I'll produce 200 teeth pulleys as a next test now. The belt tensioning is very important also, because otherwise the belts slip very often.

                                          Arms 2 and 3 have 4 arm elements 20x10x2, connected horizontally by 100x20x2. The placement of the connectors are important, they define the possible axis angles.

                                          The upper and lower arm construction is 18 cm distance and makes sure the arm 4 is vertical at all times, so axis 5 is vertical also. I will remain this construction, but axis 5 supported at two hinges and with a gear.

                                          The actuator 4 on the third image is a dummy to check the firmware code for R0.

                                          I will try to avoid counterweights, because they support wavering of the construction.

                                          The hinges are constructed by 8 mm aluminium or steel shafts, F688 ball bearings with 16 mm holes and the 8 mm holes for the arms which are fixed to the shafts. Distances will be implemented by 8x12x0.5 washers.

                                          The arm connected pulleys are connected with screws to the arms, so they cannot slip when only connected to the shafts.

                                          One thing to be aware is, if turning off or installing new firmware, the steppers loose current and the robot arms fall down...

                                          The rebuild to the prototype will have axis 1 below the robot on a plate, bigger pulleys and a better belt tensioning system.

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                                          • tony73undefined
                                            tony73 @JoergS5
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                                            @JoergS5

                                            Hello ! I'm sorry but yesterday I couldn't write to you, I saw the photos, to understand better, are you using this robot with some modifications, or do you have another one? however you have already worked so hard to do this!

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