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    • fcwiltundefined
      fcwilt @RODOKAS
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      @RODOKAS said in problem with irregular bltouch mesh:

      I also tried a mesh with more stitches, 121, but I got the same result, the right side of the machine, the first layer is more crushed, the only way to correct this is by using the table screws after creating the mesh.

      Are you sure that mesh compensation is active during printing?

      Do you perhaps have a stray G32 somewhere. The only bed.g code I see cancels mesh compensation.

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      • RODOKASundefined
        RODOKAS @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux

        yes

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        • RODOKASundefined
          RODOKAS @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt there is no lost g32, but now i have fixed my beg.g file so as not to cancel the leveling anymore.

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          • RODOKASundefined
            RODOKAS
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            the result was wrong when the mesh compensation was active, as the table was not with uneven corners, I decided to try without the bed leveling active because at home it does the leveling of the sides of the table by the motors, so in theory even without active mesh was not to have differences close to the spindles.
            resultaldo, the same error. so even when leveling the spindles using the bltouch, which is very good, and disabling the mesh compensation, in the first layer there is a difference between the points near the spindles, this could not exist because the spindles were leveled using the bltouch. I am really confused on what could be happening because I discard mesh error, firmware.
            thank you all for trying.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              There are other reasons for the mesh to not match the bed. Since we're only leveling two motors, it's only tilt correction. You need 3 points to create a plane. Even then the bed itself can be warped in some way. Not only that, there is the X and Y travel ways which can be warped or not square/parallel/true. There can also be tilt of the print head which varies between XY coordinates which causes inaccurate measurements.

              The function does work on other printers, so you'll need to find out what is different about your printer that is preventing it from working properly.

              Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              • RODOKASundefined
                RODOKAS @Phaedrux
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                @Phaedrux
                Thank you!

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                • zaptaundefined
                  zapta
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                  Not sure if this was covered here. Do you perform the bed mesh with the bed at printing temperature?

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                  • RODOKASundefined
                    RODOKAS @zapta
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                    @zapta yes

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                    • RODOKASundefined
                      RODOKAS @Phaedrux
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                      @Phaedrux
                      you were right, after the home all and the two engines are aligned with the table, I decided to make a g30 on each side (x5 and x295) and try to lower the nozzle to the table to see if there is a difference.
                      the result: at x5 and in the center of the table, the g30 corresponds exactly, so after the g30, I put the nozzle at 0.1 and it really has 0.1. But in position x295 after g30, I should have the same result, but immediately after g30, when I send the nozzle go up to 0 it touches the table, and I found that it only moves away from the table when it is at 0.2, so I have that difference.
                      There is no software error, there is no mesh error. all measurements were made at 150 y.
                      as much as I insist on the g30 in position x295 and y150 I have the same result, it is as if the bltouch measured wrong only in that position, the whole mechanics seems to be correct, but I do not understand what may be happening.

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                      • RODOKASundefined
                        RODOKAS
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                        Good construction

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt
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                          Hi,

                          Attached is a 4 point height map of my FT5 printer which is currently undergoing some upgrades.

                          While it might look like the problem is in the bed it is actually in the left and right Y rails.

                          Instead of the two rails being in the same plane, the right rail is canted with respect to the plane of the left rail.

                          When I get around to fixing this problem I will need to lower the rear end and raise the front end of the this rail.

                          As was mentioned by @Phaedrux there are a few different things that can contribute to a less than perfect height map - this rail problem is just one of them.

                          FT5 4 Point Height Map Snap.png

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • RODOKASundefined
                            RODOKAS @fcwilt
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                            @fcwilt thanks for the example. but in my case the touch does not understand the bed slightly higher at x +, it is as if on the right side of the table the z offset was different from the left side of the table. I need to identify where there may be a difference for this to happen, when I find it I will put it here. thank you

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