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    • Turboundefined
      Turbo @Borgtribble
      last edited by Turbo

      @Borgtribble
      Yea i got it backwards. From the website (when referring to M557:
      "The second form defines the grid for G29 bed probing. For Cartesian printers, specify minimum and maximum X and Y values to probe and the probing interval. For Delta printers, specify the probing radius. If you define both, the probing area will be the intersection of the rectangular area and the circle. There is a firmware-dependent maximum number of probe points supported, which may be as low as 100. "

      So in your case, if I got it right this time, it would be:

      M557 X0:172 Y0:220 S:43:55;
      

      Make sure you're using G29 in your slicing settings to do mesh bed leveling.

      Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
      Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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      • Borgtribbleundefined
        Borgtribble @Turbo
        last edited by

        @Turbo bed is 220 220 250 , you can go as high as 235 ish on both x and y.

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        • Borgtribbleundefined
          Borgtribble @Turbo
          last edited by

          @Turbo The bed pick is perfect if you flip it so the offset volume is on the left when facing it.

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          • Borgtribbleundefined
            Borgtribble @Turbo
            last edited by Borgtribble

            @Turbo OK my bad, setup calls for a - 48 (which going through the many configurations of petsfang I found this -->>Right BLT...............................X....+48................Y.....-2) which should be positive 48. So by switching the - to a + the machine works with my setup now, just the points are not in a clockwise rotation. (For note I did switch the - to + but I posted here, but at that point I had other issues causing the problems.) SOOOOoooo this is my new offset xy bltouch bedmesh

            225-48=177-2(-2 for bedstartpoint)=175/5 =x35
            227-2=225-15(-15 for bedstartpoint)=210/5 =y42

            G31 P25 X+48 Y-2
            M557 X2:177 Y15:227 S35:42

            This will give me a 5x5 which I need to map out in a ccw pattern. What changes do I need to make to my bed.g file? I found this on the forum

            ""1. A sequence of 3, 4 or 5 G30 commands with coordinates. This is the old way of doing it. You are limited to just 5 points, and you can specify trigger height corrections for those points.

            1. A G29 command to do mesh leveling. You don't get to choose individual points (just the grid) and you can't specify trigger height corrections. But you can have a lot more points.""

            If I'm running 25 point check I need to delete out the old G30 command lines and replace it with a G29?

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            • Borgtribbleundefined
              Borgtribble @Turbo
              last edited by

              @Turbo ALL FIXED got it working so I'm all good! I'm using G29 in the bed.g and got the first bed mesh mapped out. Currently my resin printer is making a mount to go on the left side. This will allow me to probe more of the bed :). I learned quite a bit since I botched this probe offset, with the new knowledge I plan on make the best bed mesh I can. Again thanks for all the help everyone, and Turbo you did a lot here so I'm going to name my Printer "Turbo" (Hopefully no more issues from here!)

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              • Turboundefined
                Turbo
                last edited by

                Glad you got it! Its really weird at first, but it makes a lot of sense when it clicks ya know. If youve got any more issues lemme know

                Cant stop tuning wont stop tuning.
                Dbot, Custom i3, Voron 0&2

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                • Borgtribbleundefined
                  Borgtribble @Turbo
                  last edited by Borgtribble

                  @Turbo Thanks, I'm hoping with the touch mounted on the left I can get most of the bed mapped out. (Since the probe can move more to right of the hotbed)

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                  • Damienundefined
                    Damien
                    last edited by

                    Can anybody explain how to do the above when you’re bed origin is at the Centre?

                    I’m using a induction sensor with a special print bed top. My printer is an Ender 5 pro, with a duet 2 maestro board.

                    My probe offset is -60(x) and -12(y).

                    What’s the formula you should use to figure out what to program your settings to so my probe doesn’t go off the bed?

                    Thank you so much for your hell with this!

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @Damien it should be very much the same since it's still just a cartesian X Y coordinate system. The only difference with having 0,0 in the center is that the low ends will be negative.

                      What are your M208 limits?

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                      • Damienundefined
                        Damien
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux right now it’s

                        M208 X-110 Y-110 Z0 S1
                        M208 X110 Y85(Due to the HeroMe Gen5 duct installed) Z300 S0

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                        • Damienundefined
                          Damien @Damien
                          last edited by

                          I was thinking of putting together an Excel Spreadsheet and sharing it so it figures out min/max values automatically.

                          Thank you for your help, by the way! 😁

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Alright, so the M557 would as far as you want on the low side because your probe offsets are to the low side, and on the high side it would only be able to reach as far as x110 - x60 and Y85 - y12

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Damien
                              last edited by

                              @Damien The easiest way to find the ideal M557 for me in practice is to just jog the print head around so that the probe is where I want it and take those XY coordinates.

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                              • Damienundefined
                                Damien
                                last edited by

                                Ok....I am still so confused! 😆

                                So I took you suggestion about jogging head around to find what I can work with based on my mods.

                                As a result, my min/Max axis has changed.

                                Below is my config. What calculations should I use to figure out how to define the grid again? 😣

                                Thank so much in advance!!

                                ; Configuration file for Duet Maestro (firmware version 3)
                                ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                ;
                                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.3 on Sat Jun 13 2020 22:55:16 GMT-0500 (Colombia Standard Time)

                                ; General preferences
                                G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                M550 P"Damiens Ender 5 Pro" ; set printer name

                                ; Network
                                M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
                                M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet

                                ; Drives
                                M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                                M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
                                M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                M350 X64 Y64 Z64 E128 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                M92 X320.00 Y320.00 Z3200.00 E747.59 ; set steps per mm
                                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z300.00 E1500.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                ; Axis Limits
                                M208 X-110 Y-110 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                M208 X105 Y92 Z300 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                ; Endstops
                                M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                                M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop

                                ; Z-Probe
                                M558 P5 C"!^zprobe.in" H5 A1 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                                G31 P200 X-60 Y-12 Z5.98 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                M557 X-110:110 Y-110:110 S10 ; define mesh grid

                                ; Heaters
                                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                M307 H0 A140.3 C627.1 D0.2 S1.00 V22.9 B0 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                M307 H1 A340.0 C140.0 D5.5 S1.00 B0 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

                                ; Fans
                                M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                M950 F2 C"fan2" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                                M106 P2 S0 H-1 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                ; Tools
                                M563 P0 D0 H1 F0:2 ; define tool 0
                                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                ; Custom settings are not defined

                                ; Miscellaneous
                                M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                                M501

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe it would help if you created a diagram of your bed like this one.

                                  Bed Area.png

                                  By the way, 60mm in the x direction is quite a bit. Is that really the closest you can get the probe to the nozzle?

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                                  • Damienundefined
                                    Damien
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you for this. I'll fill in and see if it helps. I'll post image if I still can't work it out.

                                    In the meantime, here are some pics of my setup. With the Induction sensor I have, this is the closest I could get it...

                                    IMG_1034-1.jpg IMG_1035-1.jpg IMG_1036-1.jpg

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                                    • Damienundefined
                                      Damien
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok, here it is....What do you think?

                                      Test-bed-area.png

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                                      • Damienundefined
                                        Damien @Damien
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux When I input the ranges of the green the probe still goes over the edge. Any pointers?

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          What's the coordinate of the nozzle that keeps your probe on the bed?

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                                          • Damienundefined
                                            Damien @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @Phaedrux all the coordinates you see in the green are ones where the sensor stays over the bed. But, so some reason when I put my M557 x-110:55 Y-110:82 S10 other first probe starts at x-50 y-98. 🤨

                                            Then it proceeds to keep probing until off the bed on the x axis, which I then have to emergency kill it.

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