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    • FBGundefined
      FBG @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @Phaedrux I use a wire shielded twisted pair but the problem happen...

      @wilriker If i choose 115200, the PanelDue not show me the files that there are inside the SDCard of Duet...
      My wire is 4x0.25-> https://www.igus.com/product/?artnr=CF240-02-04
      Maximum conductor resistance at 20 °C (following DIN EN 50289-1-2)-> 79 [Ω/km]

      Errors not always is the same. One of them is:
      Error: M409: control character in string

      Best Regards

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      • wilrikerundefined
        wilriker @FBG
        last edited by

        @FBG of course you need to adjust your M575 command accordingly if you switch to another baud rate - otherwise there is no more communication possible at all.

        The control character error indeed looks like a communication issue. Can you try another cable? Maybe check your crimps. If possible measure the resistance yourself end to end (including crimp pins). You could also try to further lower the baud rate.

        Manuel
        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
        My Tool Collection

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        • FBGundefined
          FBG @wilriker
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          @wilriker yes yes, always i change the baud in the config.g

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @FBG
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            @FBG Just to be clear the baud rate in the config.g must match the baud rate set on the paneldue setup page.

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            • FBGundefined
              FBG @Phaedrux
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              @Phaedrux yes yes sure, and after reboot

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
                last edited by

                Can you show how you have your shielded cable connected and routed? Where is the shield grounded?

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                • FBGundefined
                  FBG
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                  @Phaedrux Attach a photo of the shield.
                  Tested again with 115200 and SD card not show, and the error messages show.

                  Is aleatory, now:
                  Error: Bad command: M[]09 F"d99f"
                  Error: M4: Command is not supported in machine mode FFF

                  alt text

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @FBG
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                    @FBG

                    instead of increasing the speed go with a lower than 57k baud rate

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                    • FBGundefined
                      FBG @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti Yes Veti, i tested all baudrates, with another baud rates the SD CARD work, but the error message, always happen

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by Veti

                        you never wrote what the length of your wire is.

                        also check what wires that wires crosses or runs next to.

                        also which version is installed on the paneldue and which version of the duet firmware are you running?

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                        • FBGundefined
                          FBG @Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Veti PanelDue 7i version3.2.0, Duet2Ethernet with 3.1.1
                          Wire long around 3meters

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti @FBG
                            last edited by

                            @FBG said in PanelDue extend the wire:

                            Wire long around 3meters

                            from the documentation

                            There have been reports of cables up to 1500mm long being successfully used.

                            so you are double the longest possible length

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              A 3m cable should work as long as the conductors are not too thin.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • FBGundefined
                                FBG @dc42
                                last edited by

                                @dc42 I will test with 1mm wire, the actual is only 0.25mm

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @FBG
                                  last edited by

                                  @FBG, the maximum recommended resistance per conductor is 0.1 ohms. However, lower than that may allow higher baud rates.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • FBGundefined
                                    FBG @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 My actual wire say: Max conductor resistance 79 ohms/km

                                    The new wire 1mm say: Max conductor resistance 19.5 ohms/km

                                    What do you think?

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @FBG
                                      last edited by

                                      @FBG said in PanelDue extend the wire:

                                      @dc42 My actual wire say: Max conductor resistance 79 ohms/km

                                      The new wire 1mm say: Max conductor resistance 19.5 ohms/km

                                      What do you think?

                                      0.079 ohms/m * 3 is about 0.24 ohms, well above the recommended 0.1 ohms maximum. The new wire will be about 0.06 ohms, so well within range.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • wilrikerundefined
                                        wilriker @FBG
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                                        @FBG said in PanelDue extend the wire:

                                        @Veti PanelDue 7i version3.2.0, Duet2Ethernet with 3.1.1

                                        Note that PanelDueFirmware 3.2 will have some minor issues with RepRapFirmware below 3.2. You are using RRF 3.1.1. The expected issues do NOT contain the "Bad command" errors you posted (these are actually more related to your wiring) but once you have sorted them you will still possibly encounter some issues like slower update rates.

                                        Manuel
                                        Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                        with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                        My Tool Collection

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                                        • FBGundefined
                                          FBG
                                          last edited by

                                          @wilriker @Veti @dc42
                                          Now testing in 1.24PanelDue and 3.1.1Duet2Ethernet.
                                          Same errors.

                                          With wire 1mm and 0.06 is worse, only show temperature one time and is as no update nothing...

                                          I am desperate, i don't know that do...

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                                          • FBGundefined
                                            FBG @FBG
                                            last edited by

                                            @FBG Tested always with all baud rates possibles

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