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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by Veti

      i assume you bough the motors that are recommended for the blv?

      in that case you are running way to little current. they are 2A motors.

      try
      M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

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      • Touchthebitumundefined
        Touchthebitum @Veti
        last edited by Touchthebitum

        @Veti said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

        i assume you bough the motors that are recommended for the blv?

        in that case you are running way to little current. they are 2A motors.

        try
        M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1000 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

        Yes, all from Sealand (BLV supplier)

        I tried M906 X1600 Y1600 Z1600 E1000 I30 and it is worse ...

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @Touchthebitum
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          @Touchthebitum After doing what @Veti suggested, also try commenting out the M915 stall detection commands - just to see if that makes a difference. If you still have problems, try commenting out the M569 commands and see if they make a difference.

          Ian
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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            can you put the motors into spreadcyle and test?

            if they switch at 70mm/sec it will cause layer shifts.

            next thing is to unload the height map. and test again.

            also

            G31 P500 X3.5 Y0 Z2.253 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

            the offset is wrong. there is no way a bltouch can be this close to the nozzle.

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            • Touchthebitumundefined
              Touchthebitum @deckingman
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              @deckingman said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

              @Touchthebitum After doing what @Veti suggested, also try commenting out the M915 stall detection commands - just to see if that makes a difference. If you still have problems, try commenting out the M569 commands and see if they make a difference.

              the problem is still present

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              • Touchthebitumundefined
                Touchthebitum @Veti
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                @Veti said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                the offset is wrong. there is no way a bltouch can be this close to the nozzle.

                it has 3.5cm as offset so I think I have to convert in mm (35mm), right ?

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                • Touchthebitumundefined
                  Touchthebitum @Veti
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                  @Veti said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                  can you put the motors into spreadcyle and test?

                  I don't know how which value to change 😞

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @Touchthebitum
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                    @Touchthebitum said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                    it has 3.5cm as offset so I think I have to convert in mm (35mm), right ?

                    yes.
                    what carriage are you using?

                    I don't know how which value to change

                    M569 P0 D2
                    M569 P1 D2
                    M569 P2 D2
                    M569 P3 D2
                    M569 P4 D2

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                    • Touchthebitumundefined
                      Touchthebitum @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                      @Touchthebitum said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                      it has 3.5cm as offset so I think I have to convert in mm (35mm), right ?

                      yes.
                      what carriage are you using?

                      I don't know how which value to change

                      M569 P0 D2
                      M569 P1 D2
                      M569 P2 D2
                      M569 P3 D2
                      M569 P4 D2

                      I use the BLV Hotend Mosquito NF-Crazy BLtouch version.

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                      • Touchthebitumundefined
                        Touchthebitum @Touchthebitum
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                        @Touchthebitum said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                        M569 P0 D2
                        M569 P1 D2
                        M569 P2 D2
                        M569 P3 D2
                        M569 P4 D2

                        same results ... still present
                        I have to try to turn back on 3.1.1 but it is not simple to turn back from the beta. It doesn't connect anymore

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by Phaedrux

                          In your video your belts look to be very loose which could lead to skipping on the idler teeth. I think that's your main problem.

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                            Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                            In your video your belts look to be very loose which could lead to skipping on the idler teeth. I think that's your main problem.

                            Ok, I'll check that. Thanks 😉

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                            • Touchthebitumundefined
                              Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
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                              @Phaedrux said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                              In your video your belts look to be very loose which could lead to skipping on the idler teeth. I think that's your main problem.

                              I tried to tight the belts but it is the same. When I move the carriage (printer powered off) with my hand, the movements are smooth.

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                So the belts aren't flopping around loose anymore?

                                Can you post a video of the motion now?

                                It seems mechanical in nature. Check your belt paths closely.

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                                • Touchthebitumundefined
                                  Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
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                                  @Phaedrux said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                                  So the belts aren't flopping around loose anymore?

                                  Can you post a video of the motion now?

                                  It seems mechanical in nature. Check your belt paths closely.

                                  When I thight too much, I hear mechanical noises. I have to tight a tensioner more than the other one to have a correct carriage symmetry.

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                                  • Touchthebitumundefined
                                    Touchthebitum @Touchthebitum
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                                    I upgraded to the beta 3 and it seems better.
                                    To be tested

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                                    • Touchthebitumundefined
                                      Touchthebitum @Touchthebitum
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                                      @Touchthebitum said in Nema17 strange behaviour during movements:

                                      I upgraded to the beta 3 and it seems better.
                                      To be tested

                                      Unfotunately It was a short time success. It still loses steps.
                                      I turned back to 3.1.1 and this time erverything disappeared. No lost steps anymore.

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks. I've moved to beta firmware forum for @chrishamm to see.

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                                        • chrishammundefined
                                          chrishamm administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          Try to install this experimental firmware build by uploading it on the Files -> System page and then confirm the update prompt. That should get you to RepRapFirmware 3.2-beta3+3-ch (check on the Settings -> Machine page).

                                          Please let me know if that resolves your problem.

                                          Duet software engineer

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                                          • Touchthebitumundefined
                                            Touchthebitum @Phaedrux
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                                            @Phaedrux said in 3.2 beta 2 and 3 strange behaviour during movements:

                                            Thanks. I've moved to beta firmware forum for @chrishamm to see.

                                            @Phaedrux said in 3.2 beta 2 and 3 strange behaviour during movements:

                                            Thanks. I've moved to beta firmware forum for @chrishamm to see.

                                            Thanks

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