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    • oliofundefined
      oliof
      last edited by oliof

      The nema8s are mounted straight into the extruders, no flex shafts involved, in the configurations I mentioned.

      Example flex3drive with nema8: https://flex3drive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/G5-Nema8-1-4-1.jpg

      Example Orbiter with LDO nema8:
      https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H5c7149c2d4384014a948f7c65822f4d1j/Orbiter-extruder-full-kit-mit-geh-rteten-1-75mm-getriebe-SLS-PA12-gedruckt-teile-LDO-36STH17.jpg_q50.jpg

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      • dc42undefined
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        Thanks, those extruders look promising.

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          A Former User
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          I like the look of the orbiter, i might have to get one to test on my delta

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          • dc42undefined
            dc42 administrators
            last edited by

            I have ordered an Orbiter extruder so that I can look into the feasibility of this idea.

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              Veti @dc42
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              @dc42 said in Smart Effector including toolboard-capabilities?:

              I have ordered an Orbiter extruder so that I can look into the feasibility of this idea.

              awesome.

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              • oliofundefined
                oliof @dc42
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                @dc42 if you ordered the blurolls version: Mine did come with off-spec holes for the axles since the original models are made for FDM tolerances but it's been made with SLS Nylon; re-printing the idler arm was sufficient to make everything fit.

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                  A Former User @oliof
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                  @oliof said in Smart Effector including toolboard-capabilities?:

                  @dc42 if you ordered the blurolls version: Mine did come with off-spec holes for the axles since the original models are made for FDM tolerances but it's been made with SLS Nylon; re-printing the idler arm was sufficient to make everything fit.

                  What are you considering to be the idler arm? A picture would help.

                  I bought one from "sealander" (although they do say it is by blurolls) so we will see what happens in three months time, after it has been half way around the world on the slow boat from China

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                  • oliofundefined
                    oliof @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @CaLviNx Sealand and blurolls are one and the same. And you're right, there is no idler arm, on the thingiverse listing it's the Latch.

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                      A Former User @oliof
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                      @oliof said in Smart Effector including toolboard-capabilities?:

                      @CaLviNx Sealand and blurolls are one and the same. And you're right, there is no idler arm, on the thingiverse listing it's the Latch.

                      Thank you for the update, that was why I asked.
                      I have an adapter drawn up to allow fitment to the smart effector, I might try to see if I can sneak in a standard sized tool board (LC-1) in there too.

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                      • Dougal1957undefined
                        Dougal1957 @oliof
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                        @oliof said in Smart Effector including toolboard-capabilities?:

                        @dc42 if you ordered the blurolls version: Mine did come with off-spec holes for the axles since the original models are made for FDM tolerances but it's been made with SLS Nylon; re-printing the idler arm was sufficient to make everything fit.

                        In what way where the holes off Spec (small or large)?

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                        • oliofundefined
                          oliof
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                          @Dougal1957 the holes are too large (4.25mm diameter rather than 4mm). I printed a replacement latch in ASA and the axles just press fit nicely.

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                            Dougal1957 @oliof
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                            @oliof all 3 of mine came spot on both the 3mm hinge pin and 4mm idler shafts fit just fine so maybe they have tweaked there files to suit. All three did have packing issues mind the first came without the drive gears and the last 2 came without the feast couplings but Blurolls have sorted that issue out and I now have 3 fitted to the Jubilee ToolChanger

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                              A Former User
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                              Mine came in this past week with the shaft too small (2.9mm) and the holes on the arm too big (3.1mm)

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                              • oliofundefined
                                oliof @Dougal1957
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                                @Dougal1957 good to hear they at least read my feedback (-:

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
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                                  Mine came at last. The 4mm idler axle wouldn't fit into the latch at first, I had to ream out the hole at one end of the latch a little and then use a hammer to tap it into the other end. I have one long M3 screw and nut left over - no idea what those are for.

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                                  • oliofundefined
                                    oliof
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                                    I used the new bolt and nut to attach the latch and have a leftover axle (-;

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                                    • Dougal1957undefined
                                      Dougal1957 @dc42
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                                      @dc42 yeah I to had a longish M3 bolt and nut left over on all 3 of mine but they all did fit together nicely

                                      doug

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by dc42

                                        It's clear to me that the Orbiter could not be used with a Smart Effector made to the current dimensions. We would need to increase the rod spacing to at least 80mm in order to accommodate the various parts of the extruder. We are looking into this, however it would make it unsuitable for the smaller delta printers.

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                                          A Former User @dc42
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                                          @dc42

                                          The fix I made

                                          IMG_20201129_144717.jpg

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                                          • dc42undefined
                                            dc42 administrators
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                                            Interesting! However, that reduces the printable height somewhat. What is the printable area of your delta, and how much would you lose if the rod spacing was increased to 80mm?

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