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    shatty
    last edited by shatty 14 Nov 2020, 06:25

    Just wired up the Duet 2 Wifi. I just went thru the config wizard online. I am very unsure on what I did. I have an Ender 5 Plus with the Micro Swiss all metal direct drive setup. Thats the only mod I have so far. I need someone that is familiar with an Ender 5 Plus and obviously the software to look at my config.g and whatever else. I am scared to power on the board and possibly blow up my living room. I need someone to dedicate 30 min or so to go over everything with me before I turn it on. The E5+ comes with the BL Touch. Using 3.11 FW. Also have a Paneldue 5i. Please PM me if interested. You will be compensated for your time!!!

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      Veti
      last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:29

      there is a guide for the ender 3 pro

      the ender 5 pro is close enough that most of the guide still applies

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+1:+Wiring/37

      the duet wifi uses R4700 for the thermistor instead of R2200

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        shatty @Veti
        last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:31

        @Veti Wiring is done. I don't want to guess anymore. I just want someone to check it over and help me with issues I might have in the beginning. Its a 5 Plus.....not pro....Plus is 350x350x400.

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          shatty @Veti
          last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:32

          @Veti I dont know what R4700 or R2200 is.

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            Veti @shatty
            last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:36

            @shatty said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

            Its a 5 Plus.....not pro..

            still a cartesian printer and just a bit bigger than the pro.

            post some photos of the wiring and your config.g

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              shatty
              last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:43

              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sat Nov 14 2020 01:05:16 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

              ; General preferences
              G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"E5Plus" ; set printer name

              ; Network
              M551 P"xxxxx" ; set password
              M552 S1 ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

              ; Drives
              M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
              M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
              M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
              M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E130.00 ; set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
              M208 X350 Y350 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
              M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
              M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

              ; Z-Probe
              M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
              M558 P9 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
              M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S110 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 110C
              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
              M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Custom settings are not defined

              ; Miscellaneous
              M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue

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                shatty
                last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:49

                image2.jpeg image1.jpeg image0.jpeg

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                  shatty
                  last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:52

                  Also, what do you think about putting little heatsinks on the driver chips like the stock board has?

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                    Veti @shatty
                    last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:54

                    @shatty said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                    M558 P9 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds

                    zprobe in does not normally need to be inverted for the bltouch.

                    G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

                    the offset x and y is missing

                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin
                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                    Then Beta value is incorrect, try the beta value from the guide, as creality tends to use the same thermistors

                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                    you configured both fans to be Thermostatic controled. this way you have no part cooling fan that can be controlled.

                    also add a T0 to the end of your config.

                    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                    do you have the motor specs for the ender 5 plus?
                    but you could test these values and check the motor temperature by hand during printing.
                    you might want to increase E800 to E900 as in the guide

                    M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E130.00 ; set steps per mm

                    checking the marlin example config for the ender 5 plus
                    https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Configurations/blob/import-2.0.x/config/examples/Creality/Ender-5 Plus/Configuration.h
                    #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT { 80, 80, 800, 93.02 }
                    it seems you need Z800

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:54

                      Have you ever powered on the board with USB or anything yet?

                      Part 3 of the guide veti linked above goes over initial commissioning. Moving motors safely to test, that sort of thing. Try taking a look at that.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+3:+Commissioning/39

                      The duet is pretty hard to kill, but there are a few wiring things you should absolutely double check.

                      First is your motor phase pairings. Failure to get the pairs right would probably just lead to an error message and the motors not working, but it could also damage the drivers, so best to get it sorted first. Here's how.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Identifying_the_stepper_motor_phases

                      Second is the fan polarity. Positive and negative must be the right way round or you're likely to damage the fan or the fan mosfet on the board or both, so make sure you've got that sorted out before testing the fans.

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                        shatty @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:56

                        @Phaedrux said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                        Have you ever powered on the board with USB or anything yet?
                        Yes

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                          shatty @Veti
                          last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 06:57

                          @Veti
                          https://www.amazon.com/Aibecy-Creality-Stepping-Accessory-Replacement/dp/B07MVTFL3R/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=creality+stepper+motor&qid=1605337045&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzUjk2ME9MS0RHTTZJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTk3MDI4MlRHWlVWQks3QU9ESyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjcyNDU0WjhHMEo4NEtaM1JVJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

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                            shatty @Veti
                            last edited by shatty 14 Nov 2020, 06:59

                            @Veti said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                            @shatty said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                            M558 P9 C"^!zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds

                            zprobe in does not normally need to be inverted for the bltouch.

                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

                            the offset x and y is missing

                            M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin
                            M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                            Then Beta value is incorrect, try the beta value from the guide, as creality tends to use the same thermistors

                            M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                            M106 P0 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                            M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                            M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                            you configured both fans to be Thermostatic controled. this way you have no part cooling fan that can be controlled.

                            also add a T0 to the end of your config.

                            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                            do you have the motor specs for the ender 5 plus?
                            but you could test these values and check the motor temperature by hand during printing.
                            you might want to increase E800 to E900 as in the guide

                            M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E130.00 ; set steps per mm

                            checking the marlin example config for the ender 5 plus
                            https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Configurations/blob/import-2.0.x/config/examples/Creality/Ender-5 Plus/Configuration.h
                            #define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT { 80, 80, 800, 93.02 }
                            it seems you need Z800

                            I will go back in the configurator and post my fixes. Thanks! Most of what u said is chinese to me but I will do some googling and try

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                              shatty
                              last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 07:01

                              None of these values will autopopulate after I turn it on and auto homes itself and tests itself out?

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                                Veti @shatty
                                last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 07:03

                                @shatty

                                which part did you not understand? please be specific, then we can further elaborate.

                                None of these values will autopopulate after I turn it on and auto homes itself and tests itself out?

                                no.

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                                  A Former User @shatty
                                  last edited by 14 Nov 2020, 17:12

                                  @shatty

                                  Did you ever learn how to ride a bicycle?

                                  If so do you remember the leap of faith you had to make without the safety net of training wheels?

                                  Follow the steps to get the printer running, check your wiring multiple times, and trust yourself and take the leap, and flip the switch.

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                                    shatty @A Former User
                                    last edited by 15 Nov 2020, 07:48

                                    @CaLviNx said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                                    @shatty

                                    Did you ever learn how to ride a bicycle?

                                    If so do you remember the leap of faith you had to make without the safety net of training wheels?

                                    Follow the steps to get the printer running, check your wiring multiple times, and trust yourself and take the leap, and flip the switch.

                                    LOL. I didnt think it would be this complicated before I installed it. I thought it would be a quick swap. Anyways theres no turning back now.

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                                      shatty @Veti
                                      last edited by shatty 15 Nov 2020, 08:49

                                      @Veti Hows this?

                                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sun Nov 15 2020 03:22:47 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                                      ; General preferences
                                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"E5Plus" ; set printer name

                                      ; Network
                                      M551 P"xxxxx" ; set password
                                      M552 S1 ; enable network
                                      M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S0 ; physical drive 2 goes backwards
                                      M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes backwards
                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3 ; set drive mapping
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E412.60 ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X1200.00 Y1200.00 Z60.00 E300.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X9000.00 Y9000.00 Z1200.00 E6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X800 Y800 Z1400 E1000 I50 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                      M208 X350 Y350 Z400 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                                      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                                      M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M950 S0 C"exp.heater3" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F600 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P500 X16.3 Y14 Z1.7 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 X15:190 Y15:190 S20 ; define mesh grid

                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 C4700 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                      M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S110 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 110C
                                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 C4700 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit

                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S1 H1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue

                                      I dont see where the Heater for the hot end should max at 280. Also there are 2 fans on the hot end. Shouldnt the values be identical? I got a lot of the fixes from someones 5 Pro config

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator @shatty
                                        last edited by 15 Nov 2020, 17:05

                                        @shatty said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                                        I dont see where the Heater for the hot end should max at 280.

                                        Add M143 H1 S280 at the end of the heater block under the M307.

                                        Otherwise I don't see any obvious issues.

                                        You can send M98 P"config.g" in the console to see if there are any syntax errors.

                                        Otherwise it's time to do some testing.

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                                          Veti
                                          last edited by 15 Nov 2020, 18:11

                                          @shatty said in Newbie: New Install on Ender 5 Plus---Willing to PAY$$:

                                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E412.60 ; set steps per mm

                                          as i posted earlier the Z steps according to marlin are Z800

                                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 C4700 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                          M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M143 H0 S110 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 110C
                                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092 C4700 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                                          delete the C4700 thats not the resistance. you can leave R empty and the correct default is choosen.

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