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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Solved
    Tuning and tweaking
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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti
      last edited by

      print this
      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2563909

      until you get no stringing.

      stay with that retraction speed for now

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004 @Veti
        last edited by

        @Veti which max distance i should 2.0 or 2.5 ?

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @lui2004
          last edited by

          @lui2004

          go up in 0.25 increments until the stringing stops

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004
            last edited by

            ok mate thanks

            i still print the restraction stl

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            • lui2004undefined
              lui2004 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti i am now retraction distance of 3,5mm at stringing is always on prints

              is 3.5mm to much for direct drive ?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti @lui2004
                last edited by

                @lui2004

                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                did you change the thermistor when you switched to the micro swiss?
                Are you sure B3950 is correct?

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                • lui2004undefined
                  lui2004 @Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Veti yes i have changed it like in the docu like this:

                  i have changed only the bed its a silicon bed with 100k NTC3950

                  ; Heaters
                  M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                  M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                  M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                  M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                  M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                  M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                  M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
                  
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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004 @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti i have checked the marlin source and there is for hotend thermistor:

                    100k thermistor - best choice for EPCOS 100k (4.7k pullup)

                    is config correct ?

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      what temperature are you printing at? what material?

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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti 210°C its PLA

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @lui2004
                          last edited by

                          @lui2004

                          try printing at 200 and 190 and go down and start at 1 mm retraction again.

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                          • lui2004undefined
                            lui2004 @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti ok

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              You can try adding this command to your config.g M204 P500 T2000 which will maintain your current acceleration for print moves, but allow faster acceleration for travel moves. This can help a bit with oozing by shortening the time of the travel moves.

                              This would also be a good time to look into tuning pressure advance and double checking your extruder calibration.

                              3.5mm seems high for a direct drive. I would use the micro swiss recommendation of 1.5mm distance and 35mm/s speed for retraction, and then tune pressure advance. Since it's a direct drive a good starting value would be M572 D0 S0.05.

                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

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                              • lui2004undefined
                                lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @Phaedrux i can add it somewhere in the config ?

                                I will recheck the extruder tommorow

                                I will recheck the PA value my actual value is 0.15

                                Thanks

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes add to config.g

                                  0.15 seems like a very high PA value for a direct drive extruder.

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                                  • lui2004undefined
                                    lui2004 @Phaedrux
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                                    @Phaedrux i have insert the lines you written.

                                    Thats the result:

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      can you reduce the e steps by 10% and try again?

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                                      • lui2004undefined
                                        lui2004 @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti no problem

                                        with which temperature,what do you mean ?

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti @lui2004
                                          last edited by

                                          @lui2004
                                          any and see if that improves the stringing

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                                          • lui2004undefined
                                            lui2004
                                            last edited by

                                            I have print by 215°C
                                            Retract distance 1.5mm
                                            Retract speed: 35mm/s

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