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    • lui2004undefined
      lui2004 @Veti
      last edited by

      @Veti i am now retraction distance of 3,5mm at stringing is always on prints

      is 3.5mm to much for direct drive ?

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @lui2004
        last edited by

        @lui2004

        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

        did you change the thermistor when you switched to the micro swiss?
        Are you sure B3950 is correct?

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        • lui2004undefined
          lui2004 @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti yes i have changed it like in the docu like this:

          i have changed only the bed its a silicon bed with 100k NTC3950

          ; Heaters
          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
          M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
          M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
          M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
          M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
          M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
          
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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004 @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti i have checked the marlin source and there is for hotend thermistor:

            100k thermistor - best choice for EPCOS 100k (4.7k pullup)

            is config correct ?

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti
              last edited by

              what temperature are you printing at? what material?

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              • lui2004undefined
                lui2004 @Veti
                last edited by

                @Veti 210°C its PLA

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @lui2004
                  last edited by

                  @lui2004

                  try printing at 200 and 190 and go down and start at 1 mm retraction again.

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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004 @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti ok

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      You can try adding this command to your config.g M204 P500 T2000 which will maintain your current acceleration for print moves, but allow faster acceleration for travel moves. This can help a bit with oozing by shortening the time of the travel moves.

                      This would also be a good time to look into tuning pressure advance and double checking your extruder calibration.

                      3.5mm seems high for a direct drive. I would use the micro swiss recommendation of 1.5mm distance and 35mm/s speed for retraction, and then tune pressure advance. Since it's a direct drive a good starting value would be M572 D0 S0.05.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux i can add it somewhere in the config ?

                        I will recheck the extruder tommorow

                        I will recheck the PA value my actual value is 0.15

                        Thanks

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Yes add to config.g

                          0.15 seems like a very high PA value for a direct drive extruder.

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                          • lui2004undefined
                            lui2004 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux i have insert the lines you written.

                            Thats the result:

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              can you reduce the e steps by 10% and try again?

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                              • lui2004undefined
                                lui2004 @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti no problem

                                with which temperature,what do you mean ?

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti @lui2004
                                  last edited by

                                  @lui2004
                                  any and see if that improves the stringing

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                                  • lui2004undefined
                                    lui2004
                                    last edited by

                                    I have print by 215°C
                                    Retract distance 1.5mm
                                    Retract speed: 35mm/s

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti @lui2004
                                      last edited by

                                      @lui2004

                                      what slicer are you using?

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                                      • lui2004undefined
                                        lui2004 @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti i use Simplify3d

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti @lui2004
                                          last edited by

                                          @lui2004

                                          see
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QRb54zVPfQ

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                                          • lui2004undefined
                                            lui2004 @Veti
                                            last edited by lui2004

                                            @Veti soo 😁 after i watch the Video and take the Profile from the Video, i have no stringing but little gaps or ooze i dont know what it is ?!

                                            Edit: With Layer height: 0.2,215°C i have no stringing
                                            with layer height 0.16,215°C again a lot of stringing

                                            what cause this problem ?

                                            After a second try with 200°C i have a lot of stringing

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