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    • lui2004undefined
      lui2004 @Veti
      last edited by

      @Veti

      after i have changed the steppermotor this is my first benchy
      i have a lot of stringing

      my benchy:
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      this are my Simplify3D settings:

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      and my config.g

      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Tue May 07 2019 23:06:50 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G90                                      ; Send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
      
      ; Network
      M550 P"Ender 5"                          ; Set machine name
      M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
      M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
      M586 P1 S0                               ; Disable FTP
      M586 P2 S0                               ; Disable Telnet
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0 S1                               ; Physical drive 0 goes forwards
      M569 P1 S1                               ; Physical drive 1 goes forwards
      M569 P2 S0                               ; Physical drive 2 goes backwards
      M569 P3 S1                              ; Physical drive 3 goes forwards
      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                               ; set drive mapping
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1							; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E278.17             ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E4000.00      ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z600.00 E8000.00  ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E5000.00          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1400 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                         ; Set axis minima
      M208 X220 Y220 Z300 S0                   ; Set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
      M574 Z1 S2 									   ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
      
      ;Filament Sensors
      M591 D0 P2 C"!e0_stop" S1   			   ;Extruder 1(0)
      
      
      M950 S0 C"exp.heater7"                         ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F60 T6000 A10 R0.75 S0.003            ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
      G31 P500 X41.2 Y4.5 Z1.785                   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X41.2:221.2 Y4.5:219.5 S20                       ; define mesh grid
      M671 X28.8:198.8:198:28.8 Y24:24:194:194
      
      
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 D0 H1                            ; Define tool 0 S3D
      ;M563 P0 D0 H1 F0							; Für Prusa Slicer
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                          ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                             ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
      
      ; Custom settings are not configured
      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
      M572 D0 S0.15 ; Pressure Advance
      M501
      
      
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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        increase the retraction distance until the stringing stops

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        • lui2004undefined
          lui2004
          last edited by

          The retraction speed is ok ?

          In the manual of micro swiss direct drive os wrotten maximum distance 1.5 and max speed 35 ,can i go higher without Problems?

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            print this
            https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2563909

            until you get no stringing.

            stay with that retraction speed for now

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            • lui2004undefined
              lui2004 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti which max distance i should 2.0 or 2.5 ?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti @lui2004
                last edited by

                @lui2004

                go up in 0.25 increments until the stringing stops

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                • lui2004undefined
                  lui2004
                  last edited by

                  ok mate thanks

                  i still print the restraction stl

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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004 @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti i am now retraction distance of 3,5mm at stringing is always on prints

                    is 3.5mm to much for direct drive ?

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti @lui2004
                      last edited by

                      @lui2004

                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp

                      did you change the thermistor when you switched to the micro swiss?
                      Are you sure B3950 is correct?

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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Veti
                        last edited by

                        @Veti yes i have changed it like in the docu like this:

                        i have changed only the bed its a silicon bed with 100k NTC3950

                        ; Heaters
                        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                        M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                        M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                        M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
                        
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                        • lui2004undefined
                          lui2004 @Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Veti i have checked the marlin source and there is for hotend thermistor:

                          100k thermistor - best choice for EPCOS 100k (4.7k pullup)

                          is config correct ?

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by

                            what temperature are you printing at? what material?

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                            • lui2004undefined
                              lui2004 @Veti
                              last edited by

                              @Veti 210°C its PLA

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti @lui2004
                                last edited by

                                @lui2004

                                try printing at 200 and 190 and go down and start at 1 mm retraction again.

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                                • lui2004undefined
                                  lui2004 @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti ok

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    You can try adding this command to your config.g M204 P500 T2000 which will maintain your current acceleration for print moves, but allow faster acceleration for travel moves. This can help a bit with oozing by shortening the time of the travel moves.

                                    This would also be a good time to look into tuning pressure advance and double checking your extruder calibration.

                                    3.5mm seems high for a direct drive. I would use the micro swiss recommendation of 1.5mm distance and 35mm/s speed for retraction, and then tune pressure advance. Since it's a direct drive a good starting value would be M572 D0 S0.05.

                                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

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                                    • lui2004undefined
                                      lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux i can add it somewhere in the config ?

                                      I will recheck the extruder tommorow

                                      I will recheck the PA value my actual value is 0.15

                                      Thanks

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes add to config.g

                                        0.15 seems like a very high PA value for a direct drive extruder.

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                                        • lui2004undefined
                                          lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux i have insert the lines you written.

                                          Thats the result:

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            can you reduce the e steps by 10% and try again?

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