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    dc42 administrators @BlueDust
    last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 07:38

    @BlueDust said in Duet3 config Frustration:

    Does the 0 and 1 match up with the Pn parameter under the fans?

    The F parameter in M563 matches up with the F parameter in M950 and the P parameter in M106.

    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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      BlueDust @dc42
      last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 07:46

      @dc42

      Thank you!

      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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        BlueDust
        last edited by BlueDust 22 Nov 2020, 22:13

        If I would like to have independent Z motors on a IDEX Cortesian printer for auto bed tramming, would DUET 3 EXPANSION BOARD 3HC, be the correct expansion board to get, or is there another, possibly better option? Is there anything else I would need to make it work?

        Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 22 Nov 2020, 22:29

          How many of the 6 internal drivers are you using?

          The 3HC expansion would probably be the best way to add more drivers, unless you wanted to use tool board for the print head and free up a driver that way.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            BlueDust @Phaedrux
            last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 00:37

            @Phaedrux
            I am using all 6.

            Left Extruder
            Right Extruder
            X Axis
            U Axis
            Y Axis
            Z Axis (two motors tied into one driver).

            Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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              BlueDust
              last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 01:02

              Similar issue to the fan problem...
              If I try to print with the only the 2nd tool, it will heat up and extrudes plastic, but the 1st tool will make the movements.... Thanks for the help!

              ; Drives
              M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
              M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
              M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
              M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
              M569 P0.2 S1 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
              M584 X0.1 Y0.5 Z0.0 U0.4 E0.3:0.2
              M350 X16 U16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1
              M92 X160.00 U160.00 Y160.00 Z800.00 E844.45:844.45
              M566 X900.00 U900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E2000:2000
              M203 X6000.00 U6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E3600:36000
              M201 X400.00 U400.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E10000:10000
              M906 X1000 U1000 Y1200 Z1800 E1000:1000 I30
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
              M572 D0 S0.06 ; Pressure Advance
              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X-52 U0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
              M208 X300 U352 Y300 Z380 S0 ; set axis maxima
              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S3
              M574 Y1 S3
              M574 U2 S3
              M574 Z1 S2
              ; Z-Probe
              M950 S4 C"io4.out"
              M558 P9 C"^io4.in" H5 F100 R0.2 T6000 A5 B0
              G31 P500 X-30 Y-12 Z3.58
              M557 X30:270 Y20:280 P2
              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138
              M950 H0 C"out1" T0
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00
              M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138
              M950 H1 C"out2" T1
              M307 H1 B0 S1.00
              M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138
              M950 H2 C"out3" T2
              M307 H2 B0 S1.00
              M140 H2
              M143 H2 S145
              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"out5" Q500
              M106 P0 S0 H-1
              M950 F1 C"out8" Q500
              M106 P1 S1 H1 T40
              M950 F2 C"out4" Q500 ;
              M106 P2 S0 H-1
              M950 F3 C"out7" Q500
              M106 P3 S1 H0 T40
              ; Tools
              but hotend cooling does not
              M563 P1 S"RightExtruder" D1 H0 F2:3
              G10 P1 X0 U0 Y0 Z0
              G10 P1 R0 S0
              M563 P0 S"LeftExtruder" D0 H1 F0:1
              G10 P0 X0 U0 Y0 Z0
              G10 P0 R0 S0

              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                BlueDust
                last edited by BlueDust 23 Nov 2020, 01:03

                I just noticed, that both tools have X and U listed... Shouldn't the tools only have the Axis they will be on? But that is the Axis offset...

                I can move all the tools manually from DWC or the PanelDue. My homeall.g also works for all axis.

                Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 02:29

                  Do you get any errors sending M98 P"config.g" ?

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                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 02:31

                    See here for tool configuration. I think your first tool should only have X and not U.

                    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringMultipleIndependentXcarriagesCartesian#Section_Configuring_tools

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                      BlueDust @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 01:40

                      @Phaedrux

                      Yes.

                      11/23/2020, 8:39:31 PM M98 P"config.g"
                      Warning: M307: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C
                      Warning: M307: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 672C
                      Warning: M307: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 478C
                      Warning: M307: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 243C
                      11/23/2020, 8:33:41 PM Warning: Obsolete use of S parameter on G1 command. Use H parameter instead.

                      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                        Phaedrux Moderator @BlueDust
                        last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 03:10

                        @BlueDust said in Duet3 config Frustration:

                        11/23/2020, 8:33:41 PM Warning: Obsolete use of S parameter on G1 command. Use H parameter instead.

                        That would indicate you've got an G1 S1 in your homing files where it should be G1 H1.

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                          dc42 administrators @BlueDust
                          last edited by dc42 24 Nov 2020, 12:42

                          @BlueDust said in Duet3 config Frustration:

                          If I would like to have independent Z motors on a IDEX Cortesian printer for auto bed tramming, would DUET 3 EXPANSION BOARD 3HC, be the correct expansion board to get, or is there another, possibly better option? Is there anything else I would need to make it work?

                          That's one possibility. You should connect the 3 Z motors to the main board. Probably best to also connect X, Y and U moors to the main board, and the E motors to the expansion board.

                          Another possibility is to use two tool boards, This may be the best solution if your extruders are direct drive and you can accommodate the tool boards in the print carriages.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            BlueDust @dc42
                            last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 13:45

                            @dc42
                            This is the printer/kit I built.
                            https://www.ratrig.com/3d-printing-cnc/3d-printer-kits/all-3d-printer-kits/rat-rig-v-cast.html

                            I only really need one tool board for one extruder, but not sure how I would mount it to the carriage. If I did that, I could see getting two, one for each hotend.... If I did that, wouldn't I need the DUET 3 TOOL DISTRIBUTION BOARD, and then 2x DUET 3 TOOLBOARD 1LC?

                            Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                              BlueDust @Phaedrux
                              last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 13:49

                              @Phaedrux
                              I rearranged the tool gcode to make it easier to understand in config.g, and that error is gone.
                              I didn't see a G1 and an S1.... So not sure what it was complaining about.

                              11/24/2020, 8:46:10 AM M98 P"config.g"
                              Warning: M307: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 365C
                              Warning: M307: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 672C
                              Warning: M307: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 478C
                              Warning: M307: Heater 2 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 243C

                              Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                dc42 administrators @BlueDust
                                last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 14:22

                                @BlueDust said in Duet3 config Frustration:

                                I only really need one tool board for one extruder, but not sure how I would mount it to the carriage. If I did that, I could see getting two, one for each hotend.... If I did that, wouldn't I need the DUET 3 TOOL DISTRIBUTION BOARD, and then 2x DUET 3 TOOLBOARD 1LC?

                                The tool distribution board isn't essential, but it makes the CAN and power wiring to the tool boards easier.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  BlueDust @dc42
                                  last edited by BlueDust 24 Nov 2020, 14:45

                                  @dc42
                                  Are you saying I could wire in two, DUET 3 TOOLBOARD 1LCs directly into the Duet3 (without a Distribution Board)?
                                  When reviewing the instructions, it looked like I could only wire one directly to the Duet 3 at a time.

                                  Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                    Phaedrux Moderator @BlueDust
                                    last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 20:27

                                    @BlueDust said in Duet3 config Frustration:

                                    I didn't see a G1 and an S1.... So not sure what it was complaining about.

                                    Probably one of the homing files.

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                                      BlueDust @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by BlueDust 24 Nov 2020, 21:08

                                      @Phaedrux
                                      I attached my configs. I may have fixed it and not noticed it before you you replied to look into the homing files...

                                      Still not sure why I can't print with the 2nd tool. (extruder will extrude, but temp may not turn on, and it will not move. As I started with the default code from the Configurator, and it doesn't look exactly the same as the code shown in the Wiki, I am not sure if I screwed something up, or just not sure/able to find what the problem is.

                                      deployprobe.g config-override.g bed.g tpre1.g tpre0.g tpost1.g tpost0.g tfree1.g tfree0.g stop.g sleep.g retractprobe.g resurrect-prologue.g resume.g pause.g
                                      homey.g homex.g homeu.g homeall.g config.g homez.g

                                      Thanks!

                                      Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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                                        Phaedrux Moderator @BlueDust
                                        last edited by 24 Nov 2020, 22:11

                                        What slicer are you using?
                                        How are your tools configured there?
                                        Can you post a sample of the gcode being used?
                                        Are you able to manually change tools successfully?

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                          BlueDust @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by 25 Nov 2020, 02:15

                                          @Phaedrux
                                          I have tried ideaMaker and S3d, but still new to this and have been concentrating on the Duet3 config.
                                          I have tried a few times and cannot for sure say what file did what when I tried to print (or whether it was S3d or iM). The best attempt I had, tool0 was printing fine, and tool1 was extruding plastic, like it thought it was printing but was not moving and still in it's home position off the bed.
                                          I will try to print a dual/copy print again, and share the gcode.
                                          While printing, I have been able to change tools and get tool1 to start printing in place of tool0, but as it wasn't up to temp yet, I watched it pretend to extrude for a minute and canceled the print. When I pick tool1, tool0 will go into stand by, always seems finicky as temps were not set before hand (as the tool was disabled). I haven't tried to make tool1 active before a print to see if it can follow their and complete it successfully. Once I am done with this print/test (trying to fix some quality issues), I will try it.

                                          Thanks!

                                          Fun, that 3 letter word with "u" in the middle.

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