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    • Pseud3mysundefined
      Pseud3mys
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      Hello, I have a 2 toolboards connected on my duet 3 and I need to connect the Bondtech dual extrudeur (link) and 2 mosquitos hotends. But I am facing many issues:

      • I connected the 2 wires fan on OUT2 (3 pins) and when I start it nothing happen (I have tested all wiring possible).
      • the "slice engineering high temps sensor" return -1.2°C at normal temperature (on Temp0). But It increase with temperature (always wrong but at least connected). Maybe because It for High temperature only.. I can test it for more than 40°C. But Who can have have the right temperature ?
      • I have a header fault right after actived it, so I can heat the hotend. Maybe is liked with the wrong temperature ?
        and the last issue:
      • Who can we move the extruder motor ?? The command is unactived on the web interface. (without hotend on, just to test the motor and wiring)

      Here is, if you have solutions i am all ears !

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @Pseud3mys
        last edited by

        @Pseud3mys said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

        I connected the 2 wires fan on OUT2 (3 pins) and when I start it nothing happen (I have tested all wiring possible).

        how did you configure it? post your config.g

        the "slice engineering high temps sensor" return -1.2°C at normal temperature (on Temp0). But It increase with temperature (always wrong but at least connected). Maybe because It for High temperature only.. I can test it for more than 40°C. But Who can have have the right temperature ?

        what values did you use to configure it?

        I have a header fault right after actived it, so I can heat the hotend. Maybe is liked with the wrong temperature ?

        did you pid tune the hotend?

        Who can we move the extruder motor ?? The command is unactived on the web interface. (without hotend on, just to test the motor and wiring)

        see
        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M302_Allow_cold_extrudes

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        • Pseud3mysundefined
          Pseud3mys
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          16069204157775750914927316419053.jpg
          Here are the motor wiring:
          Motor - toolboard:
          Green - black
          Grey - white
          Yellow - red
          Red - yellow
          Is it the right way to wire it ?

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti
            last edited by

            impossible to tell from that.

            see
            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Connecting_stepper_motors

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            • Pseud3mysundefined
              Pseud3mys @Veti
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              @Veti I use the RRF config tool:
              [0_1606920783845_config.g](Uploading 100%)

              ...
              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138        ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
              M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                  ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B1 S1.00                                    ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S120                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
              M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138    ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
              M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1                              ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
              M143 H1 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
              M308 S2 P"122.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138    ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin 122.temp0
              M950 H2 C"122.out0" T2                              ; create nozzle heater output on 122.out0 and map it to sensor 2
              M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
              M143 H2 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C
              
              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"121.out2" Q500                            ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"122.out2" Q500                            ; create fan 1 on pin 122.out2 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              
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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
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                @Pseud3mys said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
                M308 S2 P"122.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin 122.temp0

                B4138 is wrong for that thermistor. look up the correct value in the thermistor documentation.
                or select it in the configtool. that seems to be the one that you use

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                • Pseud3mysundefined
                  Pseud3mys @Veti
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                  @Veti said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                  impossible to tell from that.

                  see
                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_and_connecting_stepper_motors#Section_Connecting_stepper_motors

                  yes I already see the doc, I think it is right. I have just one doubt: can we invert B+ B- with A+ A- ?

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @Pseud3mys
                    last edited by

                    @Pseud3mys said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                    invert B+ B-

                    do you mean switch the wires? yes. the motor will turn in the other direction

                    or do you mean invert the direction of the stepper motor?

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                    • Pseud3mysundefined
                      Pseud3mys
                      last edited by

                      I mean invert A+ with B- and B+ with A- ?

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti @Pseud3mys
                        last edited by

                        @Pseud3mys

                        like turning the connector 180 degrees?
                        yes that inverts the motor direction

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                        • Pseud3mysundefined
                          Pseud3mys
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                          yes, okay thank.

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                          • Pseud3mysundefined
                            Pseud3mys
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                            R25 (kΩ): 500 ± 3%
                            β25/85 (K): 3800 ± 2%

                            I find this for the thermistor.

                            M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B3800
                            

                            so I put this, the temp is 12°c when it must be ~19 I think. I have always the fault, do you now what I nead to change ?

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                            • Pseud3mysundefined
                              Pseud3mys
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                              I send M302 P1 to allow cold extrusion, and I test if the command went good:
                              "Cold extrusion is allowed (use M302 P0 to forbid it)"

                              but I still can't use it:Capture.PNG

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                              • Pseud3mysundefined
                                Pseud3mys
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                                Capture.PNG
                                I test the "extrudeur 2" here, see it heat 5°c and then it stop.

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti @Pseud3mys
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                                  @Pseud3mys said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                                  R25 (kΩ): 500 ± 3%
                                  β25/85 (K): 3800 ± 2%
                                  I find this for the thermistor.

                                  in the online configurator
                                  https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org/Heaters
                                  click on the beta field and in the popup select slice high temperature.

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                                  • Pseud3mysundefined
                                    Pseud3mys @Veti
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                                    @Veti said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                                    @Pseud3mys said in ToolBoard: 2 wires fan, heater fault and how to extrude ?:

                                    I connected the 2 wires fan on OUT2 (3 pins) and when I start it nothing happen (I have tested all wiring possible).

                                    how did you configure it? post your config.g

                                    ; Fans
                                    M950 F0 C"121.out2" Q500                            ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P0 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M950 F1 C"122.out2" Q500                            ; create fan 1 on pin 122.out2 and set its frequency
                                    M106 P1 S0 H-1                                      ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    

                                    I put this, directly from RRF config tool.

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
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                                      did you verify that the fans are working? by connecting them to the always on port on the duet 3 mainboard?

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                                      • Pseud3mysundefined
                                        Pseud3mys @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti yes, On Vin and GND it work

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti @Pseud3mys
                                          last edited by

                                          @Pseud3mys

                                          change the S0 to S1 for testing

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                                          • Pseud3mysundefined
                                            Pseud3mys @Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Veti with S0 or S1 It work just when It is at 100% now. But not for all other value it don't work

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