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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      Your extrusion multiplier as configured in that screen shot is set to 0.4 for all move types (read the hover text to see how it's calculated) to let the slicer use it's default set the first number to 0 as well. Nothing wrong with 0.4 per se, especially on small detailed models, but going a bit above nozzle size as the default does (25% above I believe) will allow for stronger parts and maybe some reduced print times.

      Your print speeds are also very conservative. You could likely double those speeds and have adequate quality.

      The benchy appears slightly over extruded with some strings. Dropping your extrusion multiplier form 98% to 95% would likely help with that.

      Look into enabling firmware retraction in the printer tab. Then you can more easily fine tune it with M207.

      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M207_Set_retract_length

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004 @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux inwill test tommorow

        But can you help me with firmware retract? Is it not the same with setting in my slicer ? If i enable firmware retract do i need retraction in my slicer ?

        Thanks

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
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          For firmware retraction you tell the slicer you want to use firmware retraction. There's a check box in the printer tab. Then you configure how much retraction and how fast etc using the m207 command. That lets you modify the various parameters on the fly during a print to more easily test what works best. Then you can put that commabd in config.g to make it permanent. It also means you can modify it more easily for different filaments or if you find that you have too much or not enough in the middle of a print.

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004 @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @Phaedrux ok now i have downloaded the retract model stl
            i have install the macros

            how i start now for firmware retraction ?

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
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              Well you'll need to tell the slicer to use firmware retraction. That will insert a G10 or G11 command into the code file when a retraction is needed.

              Then you'll need to configure your retraction settings with an M207 command. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M207_Set_retract_length

              Use that to set the speed and distance of retraction and unretraction.

              Then during the print you can send an M207 command to modify one of those parameters every few layers to see how it behaves.

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              • lui2004undefined
                lui2004 @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @Phaedrux ok i will try it

                do i need to uncheck retraction on prusaslicer ?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  In Prusa Slicer go to Printer Settings, general tab, and near the bottom check "use firmware retraction". Then slice your file.

                  Then you'll need to have a M207 command in your config.g to set the starting values.

                  This set of macros may help make the tuning easier, especially if you have a PanelDue.

                  https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6181/tuning-macros-menus-accel-jerk-retraction-pressure-advance

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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004
                    last edited by

                    i allready check use firmware retraction.

                    what is a good starting value for DD M207 ?

                    Macros are allready installed and i have PanelDue 🙂

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator @lui2004
                      last edited by

                      @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                      what is a good starting value for DD M207 ?

                      Start with what you have set in the slicer

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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux

                        in the slicer i have 1.5 at 40mm

                        M207 S1.5 F2400 Z0.075 do i need Z ?

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Z is for Z hop. Leave it at 0 for starters. But if you ever want to use Z hop that's where you set the distance.

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                          • lui2004undefined
                            lui2004 @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux ok thanks a lot

                            i still printing the retraction stl

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                            • lui2004undefined
                              lui2004
                              last edited by lui2004

                              @Phaedrux @Veti printing the two towers for retraction test no filament comes ot the nozzle

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
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                                what changes did you make since the last print where it worked

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                                  lui2004
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                                  • lui2004undefined
                                    lui2004 @Veti
                                    last edited by

                                    @Veti nothing special, finetuning temptower,retract settings
                                    all seems fine but with the M207 i have problems

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      so without m207 its extruding again?

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                                      • lui2004undefined
                                        lui2004 @Veti
                                        last edited by lui2004

                                        @Veti yes with normal retractin from slicer all fine

                                        with M207 no extrusion , it will print only the base and not the 2 towers for retracting test

                                        Edit:

                                        now i have see what cause that no filament come out.
                                        after retract its during to much time to reload the filament
                                        i dont know which parameter can set to solve it

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                                        • lui2004undefined
                                          lui2004
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux @Veti

                                          i forgot to check '' use realtive E distances '' in the printer Settings, now it works.

                                          do i need to go higher with my retract settings ?

                                          at this moment i got this settings for firmware retractions:

                                          M207 P0 S1.5 R0 F2100 T2100 Z0 ; Firmware Retraction
                                          

                                          or i need to print the retractions stl and post pictures ?

                                          thanks

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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            start the print. if its stringing increase the retraction setting in the console while printing.

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