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    • Turricannundefined
      Turricann
      last edited by Phaedrux

      I am having another heater issue on my new DUET 3 6HC board, when i turn the system on everything seems fine however if i do one of two things,

      1, If i turn off thermostatic control on the fan attached to the hotend and the fan comes on with the system power and so does the heater.

      2, if i turn thermostatic control on with a temperature of 45 degrees, If i then run M303 H1 S250 to tune the heater everything turns on as it should and i see a temperature rise as expected however at the target temperature the web interface shows the heater should be turned off but ist not it reached 350 degrees with no errors, i then powered down the board waited 10 seconds turned it back on and the heater continued to rise in temperature.

      I next turned the board off for 30 mins approx (until hotend was cool) i then turned the board back on and the heater was off and showing 25 degrees in temperature .

      My Config.g

      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.10 on Mon Dec 07 2020 21:49:17 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)
      
      ; General preferences
      G21                                      					 ; Work in millimetres
      G90                                                				 ; send absolute coordinates...
      M83                                                 				 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"Duet 3"                                      				 ; set printer name
      M669 K1                                               				 ; select CoreXY mode
      
      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S0                                         				 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards (X)
      M569 P0.1 S1                                         				 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards  (Y)
      M569 P0.3 S1                                       			         ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards  (E0)
      M569 P0.2 S0                                         				 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards (Z1 Front Left Motor)
      M569 P0.4 S0                                          			         ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards (Z2 Back Left Motor)
      M569 P0.5 S0                                           				 ; physical drive 0.5 goes backwards (Z3 Right Motor)
      
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.4:0.5	E0.3    				         ; three Z motors connected to driver outputs 2,4 and 5 		                   
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                        					 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
       
      M671 X205:205:-195 Y-205:205:0 S0.01     					 ; leadscrews at Front left (X195  Y195), Rear left (X195 Y-195) and right (X0 Y-195)
      
      M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z80.00 E420.00    	 					 ; set steps per mm M92 X80 Y80 for 1.8º degree steppers and M92 X160 Y160 for 0.9º
      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z360.00 E600.00      					 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 					 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z120.00 E120.00      				         ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1800 I30           		    		         ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30                                               				 ; Set idle timeout
      
      ; Axis Limits
      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                      			         ; set axis minima
      M208 X410 Y410 Z410 S0                               				 ; set axis maxima
      
      ; Endstops
      M574 X1 Y1 S3                                                                    ; use stall guard for  XY endstops (X min, y max)
      M574 Z1 S2                                               			 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
      
      ;M915 X Y R0 F0 H400				                                 ; Stall guard config when not homing
      
      ; Z-Probe
      
      M558 P5 C"^io3.in" I1 H1 F1000 T6000 A20 S0.005             			 ; Prusa PindaV2 sensor config.
      M308 S2 P"temp3" A"Pinda V2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950     			 ; Prusa PindaV2 temperature config.
      G31 P500 X0 Y30 Z2.5                                     			 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
      M557 X15:375 Y15:375 S20                              			   	 ; define mesh grid
      
      
      
      
      
      
      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138          ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
      M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                    ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
      M307 H0 B1 S1.00                                      ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H0                                               ; map heated bed to heater 0
      M143 H0 S120                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H1 C"out1" T1                                    ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                      ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
      M143 H1 S280                                          ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
      
      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out7" Q500                                  ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0.7 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"out8" Q500                                  ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S1 H T45                                      ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      M950 F2 C"out9" Q500                                  ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
      M106 P2 S1 H T45                                      ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
      
      ; Tools
      M563 P0 S"HOTEND" D0 H1 F0                            ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                       ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0                                          ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
      
      ; Custom settings are not defined
      
      ; Miscellaneous
      M575 P1 S1 B57600                                     ; enable support for PanelDue
      M501                                                  ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"    ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
      T0                                                    ; select first tool
      
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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Can you pull your SD card from the board and then power on and see if the heater still starts to heat automatically?

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        • Turricannundefined
          Turricann @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @Phaedrux if I do that I would expect the heater to be off.. the issue seems to be once its on it will not turn off.

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @Turricann
            last edited by

            @Turricann
            pheadrux wants to test if your mosfet is blown. that is a quick way to test it.

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            • Turricannundefined
              Turricann
              last edited by Turricann

              What i have done to prove its not hardware is heated the hotend to 200 degrees then powered down and removed the PI I/O cable, when powered back up the heater stayed off.

              I then Powered down again and refitted the I/O cable, when powered back up and the temp was @145 degrees fan came on and heater came on although temps were set to 0 and status set to Off.

              It seems to be when the hotend fan is on the heater is running ... so if temp goes above 45 degrees fan turns on and heater will not turn off.

              If thermostatic control is turned off the fan then the heater comes on when the board is powered ( actual timing is when Pi is booted).

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators
                last edited by

                @Turricann I am slightly confused by the thread. is the 6HC running in stand alone mode or with an attached SBC?

                In either case what version of firmware are you running? Please try upgrading to 3.2b4.1

                I have noticed one off thing with your config:

                M106 P1 S1 H T45
                

                H should have a heater number after it or be set to -1 (and i assume it is not intended for it to be off) not sure how you have the fans connected as you only have 1 hotend heater configured but if you want these fans to be based on the heater then this should be H1

                www.duet3d.com

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                • Turricannundefined
                  Turricann @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by Turricann

                  @T3P3Tony The setup is a duet 3 6HC running with a Pi , the pi has its own 5a supply. I am upgrading the firmware and the software to the latest as we speak but originally I was running RRF 3.1.1.

                  As for the fans currently I have 3 fans on out7,8,9 but nomatter which header I use the same issue occurred.

                  Yes m103 its set to H1 must of captured that while making changes.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Can you also send M98 P"config.g" in the console and report the results?

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                    • Turricannundefined
                      Turricann
                      last edited by

                      not any more since updating to RRF 3 beta 4 i am getting DCS failed to connect to duet 3

                      Dec 11 22:11:20 duet3 DuetControlServer[3872]: [info] Settings loaded
                      Dec 11 22:11:21 duet3 DuetControlServer[3872]: [info] Environment initialized
                      Dec 11 22:11:21 duet3 DuetControlServer[3872]: [fatal] Could not connect to Duet (Invalid protocol version 3)
                      Dec 11 22:11:21 duet3 systemd[1]: duetcontrolserver.service: Succeeded.
                      Dec 11 22:11:26 duet3 systemd[1]: duetcontrolserver.service: Service RestartSec=5s expired, scheduling restart.
                      Dec 11 22:11:26 duet3 systemd[1]: duetcontrolserver.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 109.
                      Dec 11 22:11:26 duet3 systemd[1]: Stopped Duet Control Server.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Can you start from a freshly downloaded version of DuetPi and then update from there with sudo apt update sudo apt upgrade?

                        https://pkg.duet3d.com/DuetPi-lite.zip

                        https://pkg.duet3d.com/DuetPi.zip

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                        • Turricannundefined
                          Turricann
                          last edited by Turricann

                          Still the same DCS is not started. RRF 3.1.1 --> board has 3.2 beta 4

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Are you saying you started with a fresh image and updated, then added the unstable branch and updated again?

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                            • Turricannundefined
                              Turricann
                              last edited by Turricann

                              No the image on the Pi is the one from the link but just checked,

                              pi@duet3:~ $ sudo apt list duetcontrolserver -a
                              Listing... Done
                              duetcontrolserver/stable,now 3.1.1 armhf [installed,automatic]
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 3.1.0 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.2.4.0 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.2.3.0 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.2.2.1 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.1.0.5 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.0.4.1 armhf
                              duetcontrolserver/stable 1.0.3.1 armhf

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Yes, and you can either update the Pi to also be 3.2 b4, or flash the duet back to 3.1.1

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator
                                  last edited by Phaedrux

                                  If you wish to use the latest unstable DSF components, you can run the following commands instead:

                                  wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d.gpg
                                  wget -q https://pkg.duet3d.com/duet3d-unstable.list
                                  sudo mv duet3d.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
                                  sudo mv duet3d-unstable.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
                                  sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/duet3d.gpg
                                  sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list.d/duet3d-unstable.list
                                  

                                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Software_Installation

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                                  • Turricannundefined
                                    Turricann
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks that is what i needed to sort that issue, I upgraded to try and resolve the original issue about the heater recommended by @T3P3Tony ,

                                    I will redo config.g now and see what happens with the heaters.. thanks for your support.

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                                    • Turricannundefined
                                      Turricann
                                      last edited by Turricann

                                      OK config.g redone left every thing else default from a clean install on the Pi

                                      On my duet 3 6hc i have the below,
                                      Running on a 24v supply

                                      Out0 - heatbed. - on/off working OK
                                      Out1 - 24v heater.
                                      Out7 - Hotend fan
                                      Out8 - Partcooling fan
                                      Out9 -Partcooling fan (Disconnected)
                                      TEMP0 - Heatbed thermistor(B9350)
                                      TEMP1 - Hotend Thermistor (B4138)
                                      Temp3- Thermistor from Z probe.
                                      IO_0 = pannal Due - currently disconnected.
                                      IO_3 = Z probe Pinda v2 type
                                      Driver 0 = X
                                      Driver 1 = Y
                                      Driver 2 = Z1
                                      Driver 3 = E0
                                      Driver 4 = Z2
                                      Driver 5 = Z3

                                      Thats is everything connected and my config.g is,

                                      ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
                                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.10 on Mon Dec 07 2020 21:49:17 GMT+0000 (Greenwich Mean Time)

                                      ; General preferences
                                      G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                      G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"Duet 3" ; set printer name
                                      M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes backwards (X)
                                      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards (Y)
                                      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards (E0)
                                      M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes backwards (Z1 Front Left Motor)
                                      M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes backwards (Z2 Back Left Motor)
                                      M569 P0.5 S0 ; physical drive 0.5 goes backwards (Z3 Right Motor)

                                      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.4:0.5 E0.3 ; three Z motors connected to driver outputs 2,4 and 5
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

                                      M671 X205:205:-195 Y-205:205:0 S0.01 ; leadscrews at Front left (X195 Y195), Rear left (X195 Y-195) and right (X0 Y-195)

                                      M92 X160.00 Y160.00 Z80.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm M92 X80 Y80 for 1.8º degree steppers and M92 X160 Y160 for 0.9º
                                      M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z360.00 E600.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)

                                      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z120.00 E120.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                                      M208 X410 Y410 Z410 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 Y1 S3 ; use stall guard for XY endstops (X min, y max)
                                      M574 Z1 S2 ; Set endstops controlled by probe

                                      ;M915 X Y R0 F0 H400 ; Stall guard config when not homing

                                      ; Z-Probe

                                      M558 P5 C"^io3.in" I1 H1 F1000 T6000 A20 S0.005 ; Prusa PindaV2 sensor config.
                                      M308 S2 P"temp3" A"Pinda V2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; Prusa PindaV2 temperature config.
                                      G31 P500 X0 Y30 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 X15:375 Y15:375 S20 ; define mesh grid

                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                      M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                                      M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                      M950 H1 C"out1" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                      M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S0.7 H1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned
                                      M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                      M950 F2 C"out9" Q500 ; create fan 2 on pin out9 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P2 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 S"HOTEND" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                      ; Custom settings are not defined

                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                                      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                      M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                                      T0 ; select first tool

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @Turricann
                                        last edited by

                                        @Turricann So with a fresh config and Pi the heater is still staying on once enabled?

                                        But it's not turning on automatically when power is first applied, right?

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                                        • Turricannundefined
                                          Turricann
                                          last edited by Turricann

                                          yes that is correct as long as the hotend is below 45 Degrees or fan0 has not got thermostatic control disabled .

                                          If thermal control is enabled and the hotend is below 45 degrees the heater will turn on and off normally,
                                          If its above 45 Degrees the hotend will come on with power.

                                          This is why i came to the conclusion the heater will not turn when the fan is on.

                                          one more thing is if there are no fans set up i cannot control the heater.

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            It looks like your config was pasted twice maybe in your last post?

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