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    • Frederikundefined
      Frederik
      last edited by Frederik

      Good Morning,
      after building my new tool head and mounting everything, I ran into a few problems.

      Both Fans (2-wire,12v) won't turn on. Even with thermostatic control.
      Its a slice 12v mosquito fan and a sunon 5015 blower.
      They are connected to out 2 and out 1

      Out1: gnd and 12v or out1
      Out2: there is only out2 and 12v
      The out.tach is only for 4 wire fans?

      I have tried with S1/0 and H-1 or H1:2 T50
      The are connected

      My last problem: when i am trying to PID Tune the Hotend I got the following message:

      Error m303 remote heater auto tune not implemented

      IMG_20201219_084307.jpg

      And I just fulit the same bltouch message like bevor with a 1.5m long cable.

      ... Probe already triggered bevor move starts...

      I am using the riginal cable. Direct to the screw terminals.

      IMG_20201219_085725.jpg

      Regards Frederik

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        @Frederik said in Toolboard Heater Tuning and Fan Error:

        Error m303 remote heater auto tune not implemented

        you need to move the heater temporarily to the main board, do the tuning there and then go back to the toolboard.

        tuning on the toolboard is not yet implemented

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        • Frederikundefined
          Frederik @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti ok, thanks for the quick tip,

          the problem with the fans is solved... I shouldn´t work and post before the first coffee 😉

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          • Frederikundefined
            Frederik @Veti
            last edited by Frederik

            @Veti what could it be the cause that my bltouch stops probing and I got the message :

            G29
            Error: Z probe already triggered before probing move started
            

            it occurs while trying to generate the initial heightmap.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @Frederik
              last edited by

              @Frederik

              post your config, could also be a wiring issue. the bltouch should not be triggered when idle

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              • Frederikundefined
                Frederik @Veti
                last edited by

                @Veti

                ; General preferences
                
                G90                                                          ; send absolute coordinates...
                M83                                                          ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"vcore"                                               ; set printer name
                M669 K1                                                      ; select CoreXY mode
                
                ; Drives
                M569 P0.0 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                M569 P0.1 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                M569 P0.2 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                M569 P0.3 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                M569 P0.4 S0                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                M569 P0.5 S1                                                 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                M569 P121.0 S1                                               ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
                M584 X0.1 Y0.0 Z0.2:0.3:0.4 E0.5:121.0                       ; set drive mapping
                M350 E16 I0                                                  ; configure microstepping without interpolation
                M350 X32 Y32 Z64 I1                                          ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X320.00 Y320.00 Z3200.00 E830.00                         ; set steps per mm
                M566 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z60.00 E1200.00                       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00                    ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E250.00                          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X1900 Y1900 Z1900 E800 I30                              ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30                                                      ; Set idle timeout
                
                M671 X0:200:400 Y50:400:50 S10 							     ; Position of Leadscrews
                
                ;Duet Laser Filament Monitor
                M591 D0 P5 C"io3.in" R30:130 E3.0 S0 				         ; tolerance 30 to 130%, 3mm comparison length, diabled
                
                
                ; Pressure Advance Tuning
                ;M572 D0 S0.1												  ;Extruder pressure advance: 0.010
                
                ; Cancel Ringing at the defined Freuquenzy
                ;M593 F40.5
                
                
                ; Axis Limits
                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                             ; set axis minima
                M208 X410 Y385 Z390 S0                                       ; set axis maxima
                 
                
                ; Endstops
                M574 X1 S1 P"121.io2.in"                                     ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin 121.io2.in
                M574 Y1 S1 P"io0.in"                                         ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io1.in
                M574 Z2 S2                                                   ; configure Z-probe endstop for high end on Z
                
                ; Z-Probe
                M950 S0 C"121.io0.out"                                       ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H8 F120 T9000                         ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0                                            ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                M557 X0:400 Y0:400 S20                                       ; define mesh grid
                
                ; Heaters
                M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4100                  ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
                M950 H0 C"out0" T0                                           ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
                M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                M140 H0                                                      ; map heated bed to heater 0
                M143 H0 S150                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 150C
                M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.19622e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
                M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1                                       ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
                M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                M143 H1 S500                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 500C
                M308 S2 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8        ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
                M950 H2 C"out2" T2                                           ; create chamber heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 2
                M307 H2 B0 S1.00                                             ; disable bang-bang mode for the chamber heater and set PWM limit
                M141 H2                                                      ; map chamber to heater 2
                M143 H2 S200                                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 200C
                
                ; Heater Model Parameters
                 M307 H0 R0.641 C945.3 D3.18 S1.00 V24.1	          ; PID Parameters Heated Bed
                			  ; PID Parameters BuildChamber
                			  ; PID Parameters E3D Volcano
                
                
                ; Fans
                M950 F0 C"121.out2" Q500                                     ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
                M106 P0 S0 H-1                                  ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                M950 F1 C"121.out1" Q500                                     ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
                M106 P1 S0 H-1                                    ; set fan 1 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                
                ; Tools
                M563 P0 S"Mosquito Magnum" D0 H1 F0:1                        ; define tool 0
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                              ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0                                                 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                M563 P1 S"E3D Volcano" D0 F0                                 ; define tool 1
                G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0                                              ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                G10 P1 R0 S0                                                 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                
                ; Custom settings are not defined
                M912 P0 S-14.8												 ; MCU Temperature Calibration
                
                ; Miscellaneous
                T0                                                           ; select first tool
                
                
                
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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  @Frederik said in Toolboard Heater Tuning and Fan Error:

                  M350 E16 I0 ; configure microstepping without interpolation

                  M350 X32 Y32 Z64 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

                  M92 X320.00 Y320.00 Z3200.00 E830.00 ; set steps per mm

                  M566 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z60.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)

                  M203 X18000.00 Y18000.00 Z600.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)

                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z100.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)

                  M906 X1900 Y1900 Z1900 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent

                  you are missing the config for the second extruder

                  what does the bltouch show in the ui when its not deployed?

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                  • Frederikundefined
                    Frederik @Veti
                    last edited by

                    @Veti the second extruder is for my "fast switching" bowden - direct drive setup.

                    I used the so-called EVA mod for my printhead, I only have to change 2 screws and 1 piece of plastic to convert my setup from direct to Bowden and vice versa. the Extruder is driven from the Toolboard stepper driver.

                    This Toolhead can be used for a Hemera, volcano, mosquito or dragon Hotend, standard or Idex, and with BMG or Titan extruders.

                    when in Bowden mode: the duet 3 mainboard drives it

                    but I don't want to switch config... only hardware changes 🙂

                    at the moment I´m looking for a solution on how to properly mount the tool board when I use the Bowden setup.

                    when in direct drive I've mounted it on the backside of the Nema with a printed holder.

                    its a really nice design,

                    https://pkucmus.github.io/EVA/

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                    • Frederikundefined
                      Frederik @Veti
                      last edited by Frederik

                      @Veti Z-Probe 0

                      and the red and blue lights are constantly on.

                      when doing a standard homeZ. it works fine.

                      but when i try to do a mesh with 20mm spacing, it stops with the same error message after a random number of points.. sometimes 40 spots , sometimes only 15 spots

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        a lot of the bltouch problems come from bad wiring.

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                        • Frederikundefined
                          Frederik @Veti
                          last edited by

                          @Veti perhaps this one is software related.

                          when i restart the printer without touching the head, it works perfekt....sometimes up to 10 times in a row ..

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                          • Frederikundefined
                            Frederik @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti and when the error occurs, the bltouch is blinkin red and in the dwc i can read z-probe 1000

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti
                              last edited by

                              have you updated the bootloader?

                              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/19211/bltouch-and-duet-3-tool-board/22

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                              • Frederikundefined
                                Frederik @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti

                                19.12.2020, 14:47:20	
                                
                                m122 b121
                                
                                Diagnostics for board 121:
                                Duet TOOL1LC firmware version 3.2-beta4.1 (2020-12-03)
                                Bootloader ID: not available
                                Never used RAM 4180, free system stack 84 words
                                HEAT 50 CanAsync 89 CanRecv 83 TMC 54 MAIN 218 AIN 64
                                Last reset 00:24:45 ago, cause: VDD brownout
                                Last software reset data not available
                                Driver 0: position 0, 830.0 steps/mm, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 12, reads 21603, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
                                Moves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0
                                No step interrupt scheduled
                                VIN: 24.1V
                                MCU temperature: min 43.5C, current 43.6C, max 46.0C
                                Ticks since heat task active 54, ADC conversions started 1479264, completed 1479263, timed out 0
                                Last sensors broadcast 0x00000002 found 1 58 ticks ago, loop time 0
                                CAN messages queued 18185, send timeouts 0, received 13832, lost 0, free buffers 36
                                
                                
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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  the bootloader not the firmware. please read the thread.

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                                  • jay_s_ukundefined
                                    jay_s_uk
                                    last edited by

                                    Is it to do with the BLtouch being on the toolboard but the z drivers being on the main board?
                                    I believe the restriction is still in place about the probe being in a different board

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    • Frederikundefined
                                      Frederik @Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Veti yes , but it says bootloader not available, and i cant find the file. i Have to update via can, do i need the ToolLc1 firmware also or only the bootloader file ?

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by Veti

                                        whats the error message when you issue the bootloader update?

                                        the bootloader files are here as its written in the documentation.
                                        https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet3Bootloader/releases

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                                        • Frederikundefined
                                          Frederik @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti bootloader not found

                                          I looked again in the toolboard documentation, but i cant find the link to the bootloader, there is only a link to GitHub with the step files....

                                          do i need only the samc21.bin or the .elf file also?

                                          any additional files needed?

                                          i added the 3 lines for the workaround also to the end of my config.g

                                          i will test if now the mesh completes without errors

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                                          • Frederikundefined
                                            Frederik @Veti
                                            last edited by Frederik

                                            @Veti the samc21 from your link worked.

                                            m997 b121 s3

                                            Board 121 starting bootloader update

                                            19.12.2020, 15:45:56 Datei Duet3Bootloader-SAMC21.bin erfolgreich nach 0s hochgeladen

                                            now, i´m really curious what the bltouch does 🙂

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