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    • nick9one1undefined
      nick9one1
      last edited by

      I'm trying to print the pressure advance calibration 'Simplest method possible' from here
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Pressure_advance

      I'm using superslicer, not prusaslicer but I dont think that should make a difference.

      I've now printed two cubes, first with 7 bands of pressure advance from M572 D0 S0.05 to M572 D0 S0.35, and the second M572 D0 S0.25 to M572 D0 S0.85. Unfortunately they look identical.

      here is the full gcode;
      https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgN3RlWvEHCokNtLymSIJ7FBOAZLMg?e=Wp0VdJ

      I can see the M572 commands in the gcode, so I cant understand why every layer looks the same?

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
        last edited by

        whats your e acceleration. pressure advance needs high numbers for that to work.

        also check out the guide i just posted

        https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/20558/pressure-advance-tuning-like-klipper

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by Veti

          also what kind of setup do you have?
          direct drive or bowden?

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          • nick9one1undefined
            nick9one1
            last edited by nick9one1

            thanks. about 650mm bowden.
            its a BLVMGN core XY

            20201226_143204.jpg

            M566 X820.00 Y820.00 Z24.00 E300.00            	; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X20000.00 Y20000.00 Z600.00 E2000.00      	; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X3000.00 Y3000.00 Z100.00 E5000.00        	; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1100 Y1100 Z1100 E1100 I30               	; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            

            3babb0ad-8b03-4a61-84f6-ed1af2db3cd8-image.png

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            • nick9one1undefined
              nick9one1 @Veti
              last edited by nick9one1

              @Veti Thanks. Printing your modified test cube now.

              I set M201 X500 Y500 in config.g

              Sliced the cube as per the instructions. 100mm/s, 0.3 layer height, 0% infill, and M572 D0 S{layer_z*0.02} in the layer change g-code.

              the only slight alteration I made was to ensure the later changes were in the middle fo a face, not at the corner. I think its easier to identify the correct pressure advance this way.

              debc1fb5-11f5-4fff-a557-e429f3ff8e0e-image.png

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by Veti

                depending on the quality of your bowden tube you might need to go above 1 as 650mm is quite long

                and you dont need infill for the test qube

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                • nick9one1undefined
                  nick9one1 @Veti
                  last edited by nick9one1

                  @Veti

                  thanks. It was just the top layers I forgot to set to 0. Infill is already 0 with 3 walls.

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                  • nick9one1undefined
                    nick9one1
                    last edited by

                    ![alt text](image url20201226_170558.jpg )

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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
                      last edited by

                      that doesnt look to good to begin with.

                      about the middle looks a bit better then the rest.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator @nick9one1
                        last edited by Phaedrux

                        @nick9one1 said in problems with pressure advance calibration:

                        M566 X820.00 Y820.00 Z24.00 E300.00

                        Increase your E jerk. Try 3000.

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                        • nick9one1undefined
                          nick9one1
                          last edited by

                          thanks. Increased Ejerk to 3000 and printing again, but only 2 walls this time for speed.

                          The previous print was 100mm/s

                          80c20680-d691-45bd-83ed-0b4db0efccec-image.png

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                          • nick9one1undefined
                            nick9one1
                            last edited by

                            Looking much better at 3000 e jerk. Thanks for that tip.

                            Around halfway looks about the best.
                            I can see the right side of each new layer is changes but not the end of previous layer -how do I tune this?

                            ![alt text](image url20201226_225533.jpg )

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Run another test but zero in on the area from the middle area and use finer steps between jumps.

                              For the bulge from layer change you can also increase your Z axis jerk and accel a bit more. Try M566 Z60 and M201 Z200 or higher.

                              Do you have retract on layer change enabled in the slicer as well? That can help.

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                              • nick9one1undefined
                                nick9one1 @Phaedrux
                                last edited by nick9one1

                                @Phaedrux said in problems with pressure advance calibration:

                                retract on layer change

                                Thank you. Yes I have retract on layer change enabled
                                f56890b9-ed4a-4117-8a7e-fc64af13cebb-image.png

                                I've changed the z values you suggested and set the slicer to start the pressure advance at 0.035 in increments to 0.055. Printing now 🙂

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                                • nick9one1undefined
                                  nick9one1
                                  last edited by nick9one1

                                  I'm definitely getting closer..

                                  I think pressure advance is well tuned now, but I still have extra extrusion on the left.

                                  This is with ;
                                  M566 Z90
                                  M201 Z300

                                  my original settings were;
                                  M566 Z24
                                  M201 Z100

                                  20201227_123318~2.jpg

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Turn off wipe while retracting and re-run the test.

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