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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @Blacksheep99
      last edited by Phaedrux

      Your homeall isn't using the probe at all at this point, still just the endstop. Trying to control the probing manually isn't going to work very well. Better to script it out in the homing file at this point.

      If you want to continue to use the Z endstop, that's fine. Here's what I would add.

      M402 ; retract the pin just incase
      G91                     ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
      G1 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
      G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
      G1 H1 Z-155 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
      G90                     ; absolute positioning
      G1 X105 Y150 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
      M401 ; deploy the probe
      G30 ; probe the bed
      M402 ; retract probe
      G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position
      

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      • Blacksheep99undefined
        Blacksheep99 @Phaedrux
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        @Phaedrux said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

        Your homeall isn't using the probe at all at this point, still just the endstop. Trying to control the probing manually isn't going to work very well. Better to script it out in the homing file at this point.

        If you want to continue to use the Z endstop, that's fine. Here's what I would add.

        M402 ; retract the pin just incase
        G91                     ; relative positioning
        G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
        G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
        G1 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
        G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
        G1 H1 Z-155 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
        G90                     ; absolute positioning
        G1 X105 Y150 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
        M401 ; deploy the probe
        G30 ; probe the bed
        M402 ; retract probe
        G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position
        

        I feel stupid as the logic doesn't fit with my understanding. Home for the bed should be as far away from the nozzle as possible to my mind?

        I've just tried your homeall and I get the probe already triggered message.

        G28
        Error: Z probe already triggered at start of probing move
        

        Why do I need the G30 at all in the homeall? It's homeall just to park the head and bed out of the way?

        When I run a print that's when the printer should probe the bed shouldn't it? I thought this was G29 though.

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          try a G4 P500 after the M401

          this will wait 500msec for the probe to deploy

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          • Blacksheep99undefined
            Blacksheep99 @Veti
            last edited by

            @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

            G4 P500

            Probe deploys okay now with no error however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by Phaedrux

              Home is where the endstop is. You have a Z min endstop defined, so to trigger it, the nozzle must go to the bed.

              Most basically G30 is how the probe is used to find the bed surface. It lets the firmware know where the bed is in relation to the nozzle, much the same way as the endstop, except that it's mobile in X and Y, so it can be used for other things as well such as creating a heightmap of the bed surface to adjust for.

              Usually when you have a probe you don't use a Z endstop at all unless you want to use a Z max endstop for trying to recover after a power loss.

              @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

              however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

              I think your z axis is backwards. Your conception of homing away from the bed has confused you.

              Can you post a photo of your bed?
              Where is the Z endstop located?
              Z- should make the bed and nozzle move closer together
              Z+ should make them go farther apart.

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti @Blacksheep99
                last edited by

                @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                Probe deploys okay now with no error however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

                have you made sure that you z movement is correct?

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                • Blacksheep99undefined
                  Blacksheep99 @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                  Home is where the endstop is. You have a Z min endstop defined, so to trigger it, the nozzle must go to the bed.

                  Most basically G30 is how the probe is used to find the bed surface. It lets the firmware know where the bed is in relation to the nozzle, much the same way as the endstop, except that it's mobile in X and Y, so it can be used for other things as well such as creating a heightmap of the bed surface to adjust for.

                  Usually when you have a probe you don't use a Z endstop at all unless you want to use a Z max endstop for trying to recover after a power loss.

                  @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                  however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

                  I think your z axis is backwards. Your conception of homing away from the bed has confused you.

                  Can you post a photo of your bed?
                  Where is the Z endstop located?
                  Z- should make the bed and nozzle move closer together
                  Z+ should make them go farther apart.

                  Okay I think the problem is between the printer and the PC! I had it in my head that +Z should move the bed towards the head not the other way around.

                  I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

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                  • Vetiundefined
                    Veti @Blacksheep99
                    last edited by

                    @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                    I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

                    with a z probe you dont need the switch anymore

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                    • Blacksheep99undefined
                      Blacksheep99 @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                      @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                      I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

                      with a z probe you dont need the switch anymore

                      Okay, great so disconnect it and redefine things in my config.g? I noticed the first line of your zprobe commands had a line to define Z Endstops by zprobe, this is what you are referring to then?

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Ok, that should help things a bit. Change the direction of rotation for the Z axis driver in your config.g with the M569 command

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M569_Set_motor_driver_direction_enable_polarity_and_step_pulse_timing

                        The endstop switch could be repurposed for a Z max endstop switch for using in power loss recovery. See what I mean here:

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s212

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          you dont need to disconnect it. you can leave it conected if you want.

                          just you need to adjust your homeall and homez to use the probe instead of the endstop.
                          like you have done in the homeall.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @Phaedrux said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                            Your homeall isn't using the probe at all at this point, still just the endstop. Trying to control the probing manually isn't going to work very well. Better to script it out in the homing file at this point.

                            If you want to continue to use the Z endstop, that's fine. Here's what I would add.

                            M402 ; retract the pin just incase
                            G91                     ; relative positioning
                            G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
                            G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                            G1 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                            G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                            G1 H1 Z-155 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                            G90                     ; absolute positioning
                            G1 X105 Y150 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
                            M401 ; deploy the probe
                            G30 ; probe the bed
                            M402 ; retract probe
                            G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position
                            

                            The homeall I showed uses both the endstop and the probe. You could use the endstop as a first fast pass followed by the probe. It's totally up to you how you want to use it.

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                            • Blacksheep99undefined
                              Blacksheep99
                              last edited by

                              Thanks to you both.

                              So my plan of attack now is to revert the homeall and home z such that they just use the zprobe.

                              I also need to modify the config.g to reverse the motor on Z

                              Agree?

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                              • Vetiundefined
                                Veti
                                last edited by Veti

                                yes that is correct

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                                • Blacksheep99undefined
                                  Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti Do I take the Z endstop out?

                                  ; Endstops
                                  M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                             ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                                  M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                             ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                                  M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop"                             ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop
                                  
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                                  • Vetiundefined
                                    Veti @Blacksheep99
                                    last edited by

                                    @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                    M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop

                                    change this to
                                    M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

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                                    • Blacksheep99undefined
                                      Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                      last edited by

                                      @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                      M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                                      Same on the zprobe?

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M574 Z1 S1 										; Set endstops controlled by probe
                                      M950 S0 C"^zprobe.mod" 							; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                      M558 P8 C"^!zprobe.in" H150 F900 T6000 			; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P50 X-50 Y-8 Z1.5 							;Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 X15:265 Y15:135 S20                        ; define mesh grid
                                      
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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                        M574 Z1 S2

                                        You only need the M574 for Z once. Delete the other instance using S1.

                                        Unless you wanted to use it as a z max endstop, in which case you physically move the endstop to the high end of Z travel, and set M574 Z2 S1. Then you can create a separate homing macro for the times when you want to home Z at the high end. This is useful when you have a print on the bed after a power loss.

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                                        • Blacksheep99undefined
                                          Blacksheep99
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                                          Thanks.

                                          I think i've changed the config.g now.

                                          The homeall is similar to how you modified it however when I home all it would need the probe in position prior to the bed moving.

                                          This is as it is now.

                                          M402 ; retract the pin just incase
                                          G91                     ; relative positioning
                                          G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
                                          G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                          G1 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                                          G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                          G1 H1 Z-155 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                                          G90                     ; absolute positioning
                                          G1 X140 Y75 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
                                          M401 ; deploy the probe
                                          G4 P500
                                          G30 ; probe the bed
                                          M402 ; retract probe
                                          G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position
                                          
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                                          • Vetiundefined
                                            Veti
                                            last edited by

                                            @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                            G1 H1 Z-155 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop

                                            remove that line

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