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    Phaedrux Moderator
    last edited by Phaedrux 13 Jan 2021, 20:56

    Home is where the endstop is. You have a Z min endstop defined, so to trigger it, the nozzle must go to the bed.

    Most basically G30 is how the probe is used to find the bed surface. It lets the firmware know where the bed is in relation to the nozzle, much the same way as the endstop, except that it's mobile in X and Y, so it can be used for other things as well such as creating a heightmap of the bed surface to adjust for.

    Usually when you have a probe you don't use a Z endstop at all unless you want to use a Z max endstop for trying to recover after a power loss.

    @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

    however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

    I think your z axis is backwards. Your conception of homing away from the bed has confused you.

    Can you post a photo of your bed?
    Where is the Z endstop located?
    Z- should make the bed and nozzle move closer together
    Z+ should make them go farther apart.

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      Veti @Blacksheep99
      last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 20:56

      @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

      Probe deploys okay now with no error however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

      have you made sure that you z movement is correct?

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        Blacksheep99 @Phaedrux
        last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 20:59

        @Phaedrux said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

        Home is where the endstop is. You have a Z min endstop defined, so to trigger it, the nozzle must go to the bed.

        Most basically G30 is how the probe is used to find the bed surface. It lets the firmware know where the bed is in relation to the nozzle, much the same way as the endstop, except that it's mobile in X and Y, so it can be used for other things as well such as creating a heightmap of the bed surface to adjust for.

        Usually when you have a probe you don't use a Z endstop at all unless you want to use a Z max endstop for trying to recover after a power loss.

        @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

        however the bed goes down not up towards the print head. have to hit stop

        I think your z axis is backwards. Your conception of homing away from the bed has confused you.

        Can you post a photo of your bed?
        Where is the Z endstop located?
        Z- should make the bed and nozzle move closer together
        Z+ should make them go farther apart.

        Okay I think the problem is between the printer and the PC! I had it in my head that +Z should move the bed towards the head not the other way around.

        I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

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          Veti @Blacksheep99
          last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:00

          @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

          I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

          with a z probe you dont need the switch anymore

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            Blacksheep99 @Veti
            last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:01

            @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

            @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

            I'm using the Z switch for home as that is how the printer was built. I'm trying to repair it.

            with a z probe you dont need the switch anymore

            Okay, great so disconnect it and redefine things in my config.g? I noticed the first line of your zprobe commands had a line to define Z Endstops by zprobe, this is what you are referring to then?

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:02

              Ok, that should help things a bit. Change the direction of rotation for the Z axis driver in your config.g with the M569 command

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M569_Set_motor_driver_direction_enable_polarity_and_step_pulse_timing

              The endstop switch could be repurposed for a Z max endstop switch for using in power loss recovery. See what I mean here:

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+5:+Upgrades/54#s212

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                Veti
                last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:03

                you dont need to disconnect it. you can leave it conected if you want.

                just you need to adjust your homeall and homez to use the probe instead of the endstop.
                like you have done in the homeall.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:05

                  @Phaedrux said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                  Your homeall isn't using the probe at all at this point, still just the endstop. Trying to control the probing manually isn't going to work very well. Better to script it out in the homing file at this point.

                  If you want to continue to use the Z endstop, that's fine. Here's what I would add.

                  M402 ; retract the pin just incase
                  G91 ; relative positioning
                  G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                  G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                  G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                  G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                  G1 H1 Z-155 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                  G90 ; absolute positioning
                  G1 X105 Y150 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
                  M401 ; deploy the probe
                  G30 ; probe the bed
                  M402 ; retract probe
                  G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position

                  The homeall I showed uses both the endstop and the probe. You could use the endstop as a first fast pass followed by the probe. It's totally up to you how you want to use it.

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                    Blacksheep99
                    last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:10

                    Thanks to you both.

                    So my plan of attack now is to revert the homeall and home z such that they just use the zprobe.

                    I also need to modify the config.g to reverse the motor on Z

                    Agree?

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                      Veti
                      last edited by Veti 13 Jan 2021, 21:11

                      yes that is correct

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                        Blacksheep99 @Veti
                        last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:13

                        @Veti Do I take the Z endstop out?

                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                        M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop
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                          Veti @Blacksheep99
                          last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:14

                          @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                          M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop

                          change this to
                          M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

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                            Blacksheep99 @Veti
                            last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:16

                            @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                            M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                            Same on the zprobe?

                            ; Z-Probe
                            M574 Z1 S1 ; Set endstops controlled by probe
                            M950 S0 C"^zprobe.mod" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                            M558 P8 C"^!zprobe.in" H150 F900 T6000 ; Set Z probe type to switch and the dive height + speeds
                            G31 P50 X-50 Y-8 Z1.5 ;Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                            M557 X15:265 Y15:135 S20 ; define mesh grid
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                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:19

                              @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                              M574 Z1 S2

                              You only need the M574 for Z once. Delete the other instance using S1.

                              Unless you wanted to use it as a z max endstop, in which case you physically move the endstop to the high end of Z travel, and set M574 Z2 S1. Then you can create a separate homing macro for the times when you want to home Z at the high end. This is useful when you have a print on the bed after a power loss.

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                                Blacksheep99
                                last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:22

                                Thanks.

                                I think i've changed the config.g now.

                                The homeall is similar to how you modified it however when I home all it would need the probe in position prior to the bed moving.

                                This is as it is now.

                                M402 ; retract the pin just incase
                                G91 ; relative positioning
                                G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
                                G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                G1 X5 Y5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
                                G1 H1 X-285 Y-155 F360 ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                G1 H1 Z-155 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                                G90 ; absolute positioning
                                G1 X140 Y75 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center
                                M401 ; deploy the probe
                                G4 P500
                                G30 ; probe the bed
                                M402 ; retract probe
                                G1 X10 Y10 Z10 ; return to parked position
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                                  Veti
                                  last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:22

                                  @Blacksheep99 said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                  G1 H1 Z-155 F360 ; move Z down stopping at the endstop

                                  remove that line

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                                    Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                    last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:28

                                    @Veti Done.

                                    Home all throws an error

                                    G28
                                    Error: G0/G1: insufficient axes homed

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator
                                      last edited by Phaedrux 13 Jan 2021, 21:29

                                      G1 X140 Y75 Z5 F6000 ; move probe into position at bed center

                                      remove the Z5 from that line as well

                                      My example expected the Z axis to be homed at that point, but since that isn't happening the Z move is causing an error. But since it's not being homed, it's already been raised 5mm and doesn't need that move again.

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                                        Veti
                                        last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:31

                                        it would have been a lot easier if you had used the homeall that i posted at the beginning

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                                          Blacksheep99 @Veti
                                          last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 21:33

                                          @Veti said in Servo deployed probe on Duet Maestro:

                                          it would have been a lot easier if you had used the homeall that i posted at the beginning

                                          I can only apologise.

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