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Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work

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    Veti @Alucardi
    last edited by Veti 19 Jan 2021, 06:48

    @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

    I believe it to be firmware though since even if downloading 3.2 firmware we are stuck on beta, Wonder why they don’t fix that

    if you are on the beta, then stall detection is not implemented

    to update see
    https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/20382/unable-to-update-firmware-on-duet-mini-5-ethernet

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      jay_s_uk
      last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:49

      TBH, I couldn't get mine to stall with a simple movement with S set to -64 either.

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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        Alucardi @Veti
        last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:51

        @Veti why is this not fixed in the stable release?

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          Veti @Alucardi
          last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:51

          @Alucardi

          it is. but the problem is your current programmer

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            Alucardi @jay_s_uk
            last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:52

            @jay_s_uk which means something is not working. It should detect directly. I tried it in my old duet 2 when I was setting that up. It detected a stall as soon as it tried to move the axis.

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              Alucardi @Veti
              last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:53

              @Veti my current programmer?

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                Veti @Alucardi
                last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:53

                @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                my current programmer?

                have you read the linked thread?

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                  Alucardi @Veti
                  last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:56

                  @Veti yes and I am no coder so I do not know what a iap file is 🤷‍♂️ Thread is a month old.

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                    Veti @Alucardi
                    last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 06:57

                    @Alucardi

                    just replace the iap file linked in the thread and update the firmware again.

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                      Alucardi @Veti
                      last edited by Alucardi 19 Jan 2021, 06:58

                      @Veti I have uploaded that file to my card and managed to update I believe. But why does it have to be manually fixed? Not everyone goes to the forum and look on that thread. I downloaded 3.2 a week ago and assumed it was working fine cause I got no error. Just by luck did I see it still said beta when looking around in the menus. I then redownloaded the needed files but it was still on beta.

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                        Alucardi
                        last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 10:28

                        This might be one thing that cause my issue. Changed to X2 and Y2 and it seem to work.

                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
                        M574 Y1 S3 ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
                        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
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                          fcwilt
                          last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 10:30

                          All these posts and we forgot to verify what firmware you were using?

                          That's a bit embarrassing.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            Alucardi @fcwilt
                            last edited by Alucardi 19 Jan 2021, 10:31

                            @fcwilt not firmware issue it was endstop issues. Card was on rc2 when it came, sensorless homing worked then.
                            I had this code though M574 X1 S3 but it should be M574 X2 S3. Now it homes x and y. Still get G28 homing failed though. After X and y it just sits there. Will not issue a move to center of the plate. So if you have any input on my z homing sequence that would be awesome. Z axis is reported as homed though.

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                              fcwilt @Alucardi
                              last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 10:58

                              @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:
                              So if you have any input on my z homing sequence that would be awesome. Z axis is reported as homed though.

                              Do you still have this line of code:

                              G30 P0 G1 X167.5 Y167.5

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                Alucardi @fcwilt
                                last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 11:06

                                @fcwilt yes i do.

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                                  fcwilt @Alucardi
                                  last edited by fcwilt 19 Jan 2021, 11:26

                                  @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                  @fcwilt yes i do.

                                  OK then that is likely the problem.

                                  You need to use G30 by itself.

                                  Unfortunately G30 without a P parameter does not respect the X and Y parameters.

                                  So you have to precede the G30 with a G1 command to move the probe to the correct XY location.

                                  For my printer X=0 and Y=0 is the center of the bed so I can simply use the following G1 command:

                                  G1 X{-sensors.probes[0].offsets[0]}, Y{-sensors.probes[0].offsets[1]}, F6000

                                  to move the probe to the center of the bed.

                                  A somewhat more complicated formula can be constructed for printers where X=0 and Y=0 is NOT the center of the bed.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    Alucardi @fcwilt
                                    last edited by Alucardi 19 Jan 2021, 11:31

                                    @fcwilt I did add and try this. But it just sit at 0 and then say z is homed. It does not even push the probe out.

                                    G1 H1 X167.5 Y167.5
                                    G30 P0 ; home Z by probing the bed
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                                      fcwilt @Alucardi
                                      last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 11:35

                                      @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                      @fcwilt I did add and try this. But it just sit at 0 and then say z is homed. It does not even push the probe out.

                                      G1 H1 X167.5 Y167.5
                                      G30 P0 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                      Remove the H1 and the P0

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        Alucardi @fcwilt
                                        last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 11:44

                                        @fcwilt I works kinda, not moving the axis though.

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                                          fcwilt @Alucardi
                                          last edited by 19 Jan 2021, 11:46

                                          @Alucardi said in Duet 3 mini 5+ sensorless homing will not work:

                                          @fcwilt I works kinda, not moving the axis though.

                                          You mean it is not moving the probe to the center of the bed?

                                          I'm guessing X167.5 and Y167.5 are the center.

                                          Does the bed get probed?

                                          Thanks.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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