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    DaBit
    last edited by DaBit 1 Oct 2021, 12:22 10 Jan 2021, 12:22

    Well, those gears are produced from some sort of tool steel anyway since it machines so much better than low-carbon unalloyed steel.

    These shaft holders are made from 1.2510 tool steel (with aluminium the shafts would be loose in the holders at 150C, hence steel), hardness as delivered around HRC23. Bores and other features are nice and smooth after machining, even with a simple helical toolpath:

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    And this is simple hot-rolled steel, same machine, same endmill:

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    Difference in finish is well visible. Compare that to the picture of the drive gear, so they use at least something similar. Brass would be 1/2 the hardness.

    On the other hand I hope they did not make the teeth too hard. That would fracture them over time.

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      Chriss
      last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 09:51

      Hi *,

      Let me come back to the topic. 😉

      Does anybody have some infos about the shipped thermistor? (24V)

      I have the golden (brass) tube and a spring at the end of the cable. It looks like :
      https://de.aliexpress.com/item/33029709571.html?spm=a2g0x.12010612.8148356.14.2b3743aavUups2 but with a spring like https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000907614466.html?spm=a2g0x.12010612.8148356.2.2b3743aavUups2

      I'm totally confused now.
      Does anybody have some settings which work fine? Is anybody willing to share them and ideally the "M307" for the hotend. I have them connected to a toolboard which can not auto tune the pid. 😞

      Cheers, Chriss

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        Veti @Chriss
        last edited by Veti 22 Jan 2021, 10:00

        @Chriss said in Trianglelab Matrix Extruder somebody?:

        Does anybody have some infos about the shipped thermistor? (24V)

        the thermistor is not 24v. only the heating element is.

        they write they ship the thermistor with a Thermistor Semitec 104NT-4-R025H42G.
        this is the same as the e3d one.

        if you connected them to 24v, you will have destroyed the thermistor.

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          Chriss @Veti
          last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 10:09

          @Veti

          Hahaha.... well the amount of destruction depends of the current than. 😉
          Enough fun for today, I mentioned the 24V because I'm not convinced that the guys from copyland send the same thermistor whether it is a 12 or 24 Volt kit. Thanks for the hint, I did not see that. the German translation drives me creazy. 😞

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            A Former User @Chriss
            last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 10:14

            @Chriss said in Trianglelab Matrix Extruder somebody?:

            Hahaha.... well the amount of destruction depends of the current than.

            if anything it would depend on time; as the thermistor has a negative temperature coefficient its resistance would decrease as it heats up, causing the temperature to increase. if left long enough both 12v and 24v directly connected to a ntc thermistor would cook it.

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              Chriss @A Former User
              last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 10:39

              @bearer said in Trianglelab Matrix Extruder somebody?:

              if left long enough both 12v and 24v directly connected to a ntc thermistor would cook it.

              Not if your source will deliver 0.001mA only. 😉

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                A Former User @Chriss
                last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 10:59

                i don't suspect you'll find many of those on a duet

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                  Chriss @A Former User
                  last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 11:01

                  @bearer Well, at least @PCR has one. 😉

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                    PCR @Chriss
                    last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 11:31

                    @Chriss i am only using PT1000 ones ;D

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                      Veti @PCR
                      last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 11:33

                      @PCR said in Trianglelab Matrix Extruder somebody?:

                      i am only using PT1000 ones ;D

                      same here.

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                        Chriss @Veti
                        last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 11:38

                        @Veti @PCR

                        Nice... thanks.... I will walk though the valley of tears than...

                        So you guys on the other site than. 😉

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 19:59

                          P1000 (and PT100) have positive temperature coefficients so they're inherently safe in that regards.

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                            PCR
                            last edited by 22 Jan 2021, 20:12

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                            First the Matrix then a hemera. But Not the "new" one.

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                              Chriss
                              last edited by 6 Feb 2021, 15:26

                              Hey guys....

                              What do you guys use as steps at M92 for the matrix thingy? I use exactly 300 at the moment, they mention 336. :? I'm a bit lost now... My setting seemed to be OK in the past but I have a lot of problems since I changed the filament.

                              Cheers, Chriss

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                                Schwende
                                last edited by 13 Mar 2021, 08:49

                                Hi there,

                                if some of you are still interestet in watercooling the Hemera, I might have something for you: https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/mebs-Hemera-WaCo-Mod-PRE-SALE-special-price-Available-from-2932021

                                Have a nice weekend.

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