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Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?

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    sungod3k
    last edited by sungod3k 30 Jan 2021, 11:53

    Hi,

    i want to get into toolchanging but on a budget, and not with my delta. I have good parts but the frame i cant use.

    I looked a bit around for framekits. Openbuilds/Ratrig has some interesting frames in their library but those are expensive and https://seckit3dp.design/price/sk-go is of course nice, but also a bit pricy for the project.
    Buying a cheap printer for the parts like this is almost worth it, but I wonder if someone came across a decent framekit somewhere? (and then i can use my delta frame parts to stabilize it.)

    Cheers

    http://www.42dimensions.de/
    https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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      Veti
      last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 12:09

      the tronxy frame is terrible.

      if you just want a frame, you can buy extrusion from places like
      https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/Aluminum-profile-20x20-B-type-groove-6

      they even sell kits
      https://www.dold-mechatronik.de/BLV-MGN-Cube-Profile-groove-6

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        fcwilt
        last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 12:29

        Hi,

        What's you budget?

        Just so you know a CoreXY is considered to be a superior design in relation to the H-Bot.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          Veti
          last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 12:42

          the seckit is not a tool changer.

          there is this one

          https://jubilee3d.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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            sungod3k @fcwilt
            last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:06

            @fcwilt yes core xy all the way.

            200-300 ish i would spend now.

            http://www.42dimensions.de/
            https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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              sungod3k @Veti
              last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:06

              @Veti alright thats now too bad.

              http://www.42dimensions.de/
              https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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                Veti @sungod3k
                last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:09

                @sungod3k said in Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?:

                200-300 ish i would spend now.

                for that price toolchange is not an option.

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                  fcwilt @sungod3k
                  last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:09

                  @sungod3k said in Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?:

                  200-300 ish i would spend now.

                  I don't think that will be enough for a tool changing printer.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    sungod3k
                    last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:17

                    my 300 budget is for the frame only.

                    http://www.42dimensions.de/
                    https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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                      Veti
                      last edited by 30 Jan 2021, 14:28

                      here is a brackdown of the jubilee

                      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pRzBQxVzL9c4T9b1RrKvSjlSwJJhJ7NcbSV6iJUv0X0/edit#gid=0

                      have a look

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                        sungod3k @Veti
                        last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 17:38

                        @Veti

                        Im just looking at the railcore 2 vs the jubilee for they use linear rails. I like the jubilees way of having the carriages ride on top of the printer. that saves quite some z space.
                        i also figured i probably can use all my delta frame parts to make a core xy frame, i only need z screws.

                        you seem to know the jubilee a bit, what would be the reason for the x and y motors to have an extra pulley just before the motor? why not end the belt loop directly on the motors driver pulley?

                        http://www.42dimensions.de/
                        https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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                          fcwilt @sungod3k
                          last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 17:41

                          @sungod3k said in Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?:

                          what would be the reason for the x and y motors to have an extra pulley just before the motor? why not end the belt loop directly on the motors driver pulley?

                          It reduces the overall depth of the printer while still allowing a good range of belt tension adjustment.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            theruttmeister @fcwilt
                            last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 22:06

                            @fcwilt said in Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?:

                            Just so you know a CoreXY is considered to be a superior design in relation to the H-Bot.

                            🙄

                            Isolate, substitute, verify.

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                              dc42 administrators @sungod3k
                              last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 22:08

                              @sungod3k said in Delta to Toolchanger -> Core X/Y or H-Bot framekit?:

                              i also figured i probably can use all my delta frame parts to make a core xy frame, i only need z screws.

                              Keep your delta intact, unless you have a another printer. You will need it to make parts for your new printer.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                sungod3k @dc42
                                last edited by 3 Feb 2021, 20:05

                                @dc42 yes 🙂 already printing parts

                                RIP delta but now i cant wait to saw it in half^^

                                http://www.42dimensions.de/
                                https://printnewworlds.blogspot.com/

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