No communication between 6HC and 3HC

klayus

Is there anyway to reset the 6hc mother board to the default settings that it came with?

jay_s_uk

@klayus yes, load a new config.
No settings pertaining to your setup are stored on the board.
How long have you had the 3HC? It could be a slow crystal

klayus

well i ordered it 2 weeks ago from filafarm.de it's a v1.01 board 6hc, the expansion board is duet eb1 wd01236

jay_s_uk

I would suggest buying a known working cable.
The type suggested to use are high speed ADSL cables. They aren't very expensive and would rule out all the wiring combinations etc

klayus

I'm trying to revert to 3.1.1 again but there is a missing binary from github, or so duet reports. The file is called "duet3_sdiap32_mb6hc.bin"

jay_s_uk

its part of the 3.2 release to allow downgrading

Phaedrux

Can you provide the results of M122 and a photo of the wiring on the 3HC?

When switching between firmware versions it's a good idea to upload the complete zip file through DWC if possible. That way any ancillary files are included. They makes going back and forth between versions much easier.

https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2.2/Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.2.zip

https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.1.1/Duet2and3Firmware-3.1.1.zip

klayus

so the result from M122 is:
m122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)
Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TJ-6JKDD-3S06T-KU82T
Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (1 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 149788
Dynamic ram: 91308 of which 604 recycled
Never used RAM 117132, free system stack 185 words
Tasks: NETWORK(ready,545) HEAT(blocked,368) CanReceiv(blocked,927) CanSender(blocked,371) CanClock(blocked,356) TMC(blocked,60) MAIN(running,1325) IDLE(ready,19)
Owned mutexes: USB(MAIN)
=== Platform ===
Last reset 00:00:23 ago, cause: reset button
Last software reset at 2021-02-21 15:52, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 110284, slot 2
Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x00
Aux0 errors 0,0,0
Aux1 errors 0,0,0
MCU temperature: min 39.3, current 40.9, max 41.1
Supply voltage: min 25.4, current 25.6, max 26.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 740, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 740, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 2: position 0, standstill, reads 740, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 740, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 740, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 741, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Date/time: 1970-01-01 00:00:00
Slowest loop: 999.15ms; fastest: 0.05ms
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 2.2ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 125, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters = -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is ready with "m122" in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
SBC is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty.
=== Network ===
Slowest loop: 0.15ms; fastest: 0.00ms
Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
HTTP sessions: 0 of 8

Ethernet -
State: disabled
Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
=== CAN ===
Messages queued 1, send timeouts 0, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
ok

i did receive earlier this message:
=== CAN ===
Messages queued 5863, send timeouts 55, received 5, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
where it says it received 5 messages from the expansion board.

i receive this:
m115 b1
Error: M115: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6024, RID=1
ok

but if i send:
m997 s1
ok

it says ok as if it managed to install the firmware on expansion board 1?

jay_s_uk

@klayus M997 S1 is not the correct command.
you should be using M997 B1
https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M997_Perform_in_application_firmware_update

klayus

@jay_s_uk m997 b1
Error: M997: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6024, RID=3

klayus

Do I need to tell the mainboard anywhere that there is an explanation board attached? In a config file?

jay_s_uk

no. I'm pretty sure it just repeatedly sends out packets to determine if anything is connected or not.

klayus

So? Is the 6hc broke or the 3hc?

jay_s_uk

@klayus one for @Phaedrux or @dc42 to get involved with

T3P3Tony

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dc42

@klayus, this is what I suggest:

Power up the 3HC with the CAN cable disconnected and all the switches off, to check that it behaves as expected. It should flash the LED briefly, then flash 4 times indicating no response from the main board. Then it should repeat.
Make sure there is no Duet3Firmware-EXP3HC.bin file on the SD card, and connect the CAN cable. This time the LED on the 3HC should flash 5 times on each attempt, indicating that the master doesn't have the file. This will show that the CAN communication is working. Also, if you have DWC connected to the 6HC, it should report that it got a request for a missing firmware file
Upload the Duet3Firmware-EXP3HC.bin file from the 3.1.1 release to the SD card. This time the 3HC board should load the firmware. If the main board is also running firmware 3.1.1 then then the LED should blink in sync with the main one. If the main board is running 3.2.2 then it will blink rapidly. However, even in this case you should be able to send commands such as M115 B126 and M122 B126 to query the EXP3HC.
If that all works, then you can try putting Duet3Firmware-EXP3HC.bin from the 3.2.2 release on the SD card. Then press the Reset button on the 3HC to make it load firmware again (switches still all off).

klayus

Thanx a lot, I'll try that tomorrow and get back with results.

klayus

ok, so i followed your steps and here are the results:

6HC has firmware 3.1.1 with no 3hc update file on its sd card. no can cable connected but both boards powered on, the 3HC blinks 4 times and another brief one.
i connected the CAN cable, 3HC led still flashes 4 times. all address pins set to 0. i reset the 3HC, the led still flashes 4 times. nothing changed.

if i install firmware 3.2.2 on 6HC:

6HC has firmware 3.2.2 with no 3hc update file on it's sd card. no can cable connected but both boards powered on, the 3HC blinks 4 times and another brief one.
i connected the CAN cable, the led blinks 5 times, YAT reports
Error: Received firmware update request for missing file 'Duet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin'
i placed Duet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin from firmware 3.1.1 on the sd card, mounted the sd card, the led from the 3HC stops flashing all toghether. if i send M115 B126 -
Error: M115: Response timeout: CAN addr 126, req type 6024, RID=0
if i remove the CAN cable the 3HC starts flashing 4 times. i remove the 3hc update file from the sd card, the 3hc led starts flashing 5 times - yat reports Error: Received firmware update request for missing file 'Duet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin'
i upload the Duet3Firmware_EXP3HC.bin from 3.2.2 and mount the sd card
the led stops flashing.
sending m115 b126 gives:
Error: M115: Response timeout: CAN addr 126, req type 6024, RID=1
after reset same response.
switch to address 1: same response, different address

klayus

@dc42 help

dc42

Thanks. I think the 3HC board may be faulty, so please ask your supplier to replace it, referring to this post as authorization.