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    • ezemaffundefined
      ezemaff
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      Today i try to print cube from https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s179

      and i get this error message

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      really need help 😞

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Can you post a photo of your hotend? It sounds like something isn't quite right with the hotend.

        What did the heater graph look like on that print?

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        • ezemaffundefined
          ezemaff
          last edited by

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          Could be possible about power supply not working well ?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by

            That graph looks more like interference on the thermistor wires or a bad connection. It wasn't apparent in the previous graph from the tuning operation, but it's definitely apparent there.

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            • ezemaffundefined
              ezemaff
              last edited by

              bad crimp ? bad cable ?

              im using cat5e and terminals crimped
              i will upload photos

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              • ezemaffundefined
                ezemaff
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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
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                  Are the thermistor wires running through the same cat5 cable as a stepper or heater? That could be causing some interference. I would try running some external test wires for the thermistor and see if it's better.

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                  • ezemaffundefined
                    ezemaff
                    last edited by

                    I did it.. and i get same result.

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                    • deckingmanundefined
                      deckingman @ezemaff
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                      @ezemaff You have a noisy thermistor signal. It's either the wiring, the connectors, or the thermistor itself. If you are absolutely sure there is nothing wrong with the wiring, then change the thermistor.

                      Ian
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                      • ezemaffundefined
                        ezemaff @deckingman
                        last edited by ezemaff

                        @deckingman Could any other wire be making noise? because the thermistor is new, and the wiring its from stock on this moment.

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                        • deckingmanundefined
                          deckingman @ezemaff
                          last edited by deckingman

                          @ezemaff said in RRF3 PID TUNING HOTEND ¨warning as result¨:

                          @deckingman Could any other wire be making noise? because the thermistor is new, and the wiring its from stock on this moment.

                          In general, 100k thermistors are less sensitive to external noise than say pt100s but it's not impossible that another cable run parallel to the thermistor might be causing the noise. It's also not impossible for new thermistor cartridges to be faulty.

                          It's also quite possible that E3D's awful method of clamping the thermistor cartridge with a grub screw, has meant that you've inadvertently crushed the cartridge and/or cracked the ceramic potting compound which is causing an intermittent short circuit.

                          Edit. What are those wago style connectors shown above. Are they being used in the thermistor wiring? If so, ditch them.

                          Ian
                          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                          • ezemaffundefined
                            ezemaff @deckingman
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                            I will try changing the thermistor for a new one ! Thanks for the help and your time !! I keep you updated

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @ezemaff
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                              @ezemaff said in RRF3 PID TUNING HOTEND ¨warning as result¨:

                              I did it.. and i get same result.

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                              What exactly did you do?

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                              • ezemaffundefined
                                ezemaff @Phaedrux
                                last edited by ezemaff

                                @Phaedrux

                                Changed crimp, terminals, wiring with the same thermistator..

                                Now, i changed thermistor with the same wiring/terminals and works fine.. So it was the thermistor.

                                The thermistor its new.. i open the box three days ago.. Very weird..

                                @Phaedrux Thanks for the help.

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