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    Surgikill
    last edited by Surgikill 3 May 2021, 06:10 5 Mar 2021, 06:10

    Hey all,

    I just decided to upgrade from 2.03 to 3.2.2. I am going through my config.g and re-writing it all, but I seem to be having an issue with setting up my bed heater.

    This is my bed heater config from 2.03

    ; Heaters
    M140 H7 ; Sets bed heater to heater 7
    M307 H7 A223.1 C298.7 D1.2 V22.8 B0 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M305 P7 T100000 B3950 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 7 (Bed)(add S parameter from 0-1 to change PWM limit.)
    M143 H7 S90 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 90C

    This is my bed heater config on 3.2.2

    ; Heaters
    ; Bed
    M140 H7
    M308 S0 P"e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
    M950 H7 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H7 A223.1 C298.7 D1.2 V22.8 B0 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M143 H7 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C

    The thermistor is reporting the correct value on the new config, but I can't get the bed to heat. If I change

    M950 H7 C"bedheat" T0
    

    to

    M950 H7 C"e6heat" T0
    

    my DWC ends up showing another tool head, and my bed on heater 0/sensor 0, which is no good.

    The 2.03 configuration worked, so I'm not sure what I need to change.

    I am running a Duex5 and the bed is connected to E6 Heater and E6 Thermistor as called out in this diagram.

    https://d17kynu4zpq5hy.cloudfront.net/igi/duet3d/UmicktOhxfaAlZbb.huge

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      DIY-O-Sphere @Surgikill
      last edited by DIY-O-Sphere 3 May 2021, 06:38 5 Mar 2021, 06:35

      @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

      M950 H7

      Please check the doku for M950....H now is the channel not the pin.
      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M950_Create_heater_fan_spindle_or_GPIO_servo_pin
      Please use the configurator to generate propper system files.
      https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org/Start

      Edit:
      There are more things that need to be considered or changed.

      (UTC+1)

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        Veti
        last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 06:38

        @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

        M140

        also the configurator takes care of things that you might not be aware of like order

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M140_Set_Bed_Temperature_Fast_or_Configure_Bed_Heater

        In RRF3 a M140 command with H parameter (other than H-1) must come after the M950 command that creates that heater, and before any M143 command that sets a temperature limit for that heater.

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          Surgikill @DIY-O-Sphere
          last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 06:42

          @DIY-O-Sphere Hmm, I did use the configurator, I guess I didn't set it correctly? Seems confusing because M140 H7 sets the heater. I also followed this guide
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAr4zIbRgZs&t=902s

          but maybe something changed? Or is it just because I'm trying to remap the default bed heat pin?

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            DIY-O-Sphere @Surgikill
            last edited by DIY-O-Sphere 3 May 2021, 06:49 5 Mar 2021, 06:48

            @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

            Or is it just because I'm trying to remap the default bed heat pin?

            In RRf3

            C"bedheat"
            

            sets the pin.....

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              Surgikill @DIY-O-Sphere
              last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 07:12

              @DIY-O-Sphere Okay, this is what ended up working.

              ; Heaters
              ; Bed
              M308 S0 P"e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
              M950 H7 C"!exp.heater7" T0 ; create bed heater output on exp.heater7 and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H7 A223.1 C298.7 D1.2 V22.8 B0 ; Disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H7
              M143 H7 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C

              The naming conventions for pins and thermistor inputs, as well as having the number offset for them seems like an oversight.

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                DIY-O-Sphere @Surgikill
                last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 07:39

                @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

                The naming conventions for pins and thermistor inputs, as well as having the number offset for them seems like an oversight.

                You can use what ever is free for the H paramerter there is no need to name it like the pin... The old standard for the bed was H0.
                I would recommend to choose the numbering in ascending order and not in connection with the pin number. This will not work consistently with a more complex configuration.

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                  Veti
                  last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 07:44

                  @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

                  M950 H7 C"!exp.heater7" T0

                  do you have a duex? if so thats the wrong name. duex pins start with duex

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                    Surgikill @DIY-O-Sphere
                    last edited by Surgikill 3 May 2021, 13:46 5 Mar 2021, 13:43

                    @DIY-O-Sphere So what would the config.g look like for that? Every time I try to change it, it breaks. Also, I wasn't exactly referring to H7 here, more of the fact that the naming conventions for heater 6 and thermistor input 6 do not follow any type of logic and are named and numbered differently than the wiring diagrams.

                    @Veti I got the pin name from here. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_Pin_names_for_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet

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                      DIY-O-Sphere @Surgikill
                      last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 14:20

                      @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

                      So what would the config.g look like for that?

                      Please provide the complete config.g

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                        Surgikill @DIY-O-Sphere
                        last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 15:17

                        @DIY-O-Sphere

                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                        ;
                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Thu Mar 04 2021 23:17:38 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
                        ; General preferences
                        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                        M550 P"CoreXY" ; set printer name
                        ; Network
                        M552 S1 ; enable network
                        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                        M586 P1 S1 ; enable FTP
                        M586 P2 S1 ; enable Telnet
                        ; Motor/driver assignments
                        M584 X0 Y1 Z5:6:7:8 E3 ; four Z motors connected to driver outputs 5, 6, 7 and 8
                        ;Select printer mode
                        M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode (must come after M584)
                        ; Independent Z-axis configuration
                        M671 X6:0:312.5:312.5 Y-66:391:396:-66 S10 ; leadscrews at front left, rear left, rear right and front right
                        ; Drives
                        M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes backwards
                        M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes backwards
                        M569 P3 S0 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                        M569 P5 S0 ; physical drive 5 goes forwards
                        M569 P6 S0 ; physical drive 6 goes forwards
                        M569 P7 S0 ; physical drive 7 goes forwards
                        M569 P8 S0 ; physical drive 8 goes forwards
                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                        M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E409.00 ; set steps per mm
                        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z12.00 E3000.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z600.00 E7200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E6000.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z800 E1100 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                        ; Axis Limits
                        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                        M208 X310 Y320 Z315 S0 ; set axis maxima
                        ; Endstops
                        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                        M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                        ; Z-Probe
                        M558 P1 C"zprobe.in" H7.5 F600 T6000 ; set Z probe type to unmodulated and the dive height + speeds
                        G31 P500 X1.34 Y21.75 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                        M557 X0:295 Y32:300 S20 ; define mesh grid
                        ; Heaters (config-override.g is where ADC values are stored.)
                        ; Bed
                        M308 S0 P"e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                        M950 H7 C"!exp.heater7" T0 ; create bed heater output on exp.heater7 and map it to sensor 0
                        M140 H7 ; Define bed heater as heater 7 output
                        M143 H7 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
                        ; Hemera
                        M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.060000e-8 R4700 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                        M143 H1 S285 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                        ; Fans
                        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                        M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                        M106 P1 S1 H1 T50 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                        ; Tools
                        M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                        ; Miscellaneous
                        M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                        M591 D0 P5 C"eo_stop" R40:120 E3.0 S1 A0 ; Duet3D laser sensor for extruder drive 0 is connected to endstop input 3 (E0), tolerance 40 to 120%, 3mm comparison length
                        T0 ; Select first tool
                        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
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                          DIY-O-Sphere
                          last edited by DIY-O-Sphere 3 May 2021, 16:28 5 Mar 2021, 16:28

                          @Surgikill

                          M308 S0 P"e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H7 C"!exp.heater7" T0 ; create bed heater output on exp.heater7 and map it to sensor 0
                          M140 H7 ; Define bed heater as heater 7 output
                          M143 H7 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C

                          change to

                          M308 S0 P"e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"!exp.heater7" T0 ; create bed heater output on exp.heater7 and map it to sensor 0
                          M140 H0 ; Define bed heater as heater 7 output
                          M143 H0 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C

                          Should work...
                          What probably broke your configuration was that M140 has to come after M950.

                          And what @veti mentioned is if thermistor and heater are connected to the duex use:

                          M308 S0 P"duex.e6temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 R4700 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"!duex.e6heat" T0 ; create bed heater output on exp.heater7 and map it to sensor 0
                          M140 H0 ; Define bed heater as heater 7 output
                          M143 H0 S80 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C

                          ( more accurately expressed...)

                          (UTC+1)

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                            Surgikill @DIY-O-Sphere
                            last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 16:30

                            @DIY-O-Sphere Thank you. I'll try that after this print finishes. I changed "!exp.heater7" to "!duex.e6heat" and it put the bed in a runaway state, so I un-inverted it to be "duex.e6heat" and it worked fine. Not sure why that happens.

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                              Veti @Surgikill
                              last edited by 5 Mar 2021, 16:37

                              @Surgikill said in Trouble setting up mains heated bed on RRF 3.x:

                              @Veti I got the pin name from here. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/RepRapFirmware_3_overview#Section_Pin_names_for_Duet_2_WiFi_Ethernet

                              yes it mentions the duex heater ports

                              !duex.e2heat,
                              !duex.e3heat,
                              !duex.e4heat,
                              !duex.e5heat,
                              !duex.e6heat,

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