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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by

      Post your config.g homeall homez bed.g and start gcode so we can see everything that could be going on in sequence.

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      • TristanKoelnundefined
        TristanKoeln @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @Phaedrux here are all my files:
        homez.g homeall.g config.g bed.g
        Startcode:
        M98 P"/macros/PLA_Offset" ;set z probe offsets
        G29 S1 ;load heighmap
        @Stephen6309 i add the macro thing xD

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
          last edited by

          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

          Startcode:
          M98 P"/macros/PLA_Offset" ;set z probe offsets
          G29 S1 ;load heighmap
          @Stephen6309 i add the macro thing xD

          Adjusting the probe Z trigger height is a curious way to make such an adjustment.

          The probe Z trigger height should be a constant that only varies with temperature perhaps.

          If you wish to tweak the Z height when printing different materials you may want to use the "baby steps" setting instead - see M290.

          You can, if you wish, make use of the filament handling feature of DWC to specify different filaments at the start of a print and obtain different Z height "tweaks" using M290 based on the selected filament.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • TristanKoelnundefined
            TristanKoeln @fcwilt
            last edited by

            @fcwilt thx for you advice, but first i want that my printer prints something befor i will realy start tweaking out some thing, right now my problem is that the nozzel is allways 1-2 mm to high

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @TristanKoeln
              last edited by

              @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

              @fcwilt thx for you advice, but first i want that my printer prints something befor i will realy start tweaking out some thing, right now my problem is that the nozzel is allways 1-2 mm to high

              OK that should be easy to correct.

              One thing you need to remember is that before creating a height map with G29 S0 and before loading the height map with G29 S1 you need to perform a G1 to move the probe to the center of the bed and then do a single G30 to set the Z=0 datum.

              And of course for the Z probe to work properly it's Z trigger height value (in G31) needs to be set to the correct value.

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • TristanKoelnundefined
                TristanKoeln
                last edited by

                @fcwilt all of that is done see in the homeZ and the trigger hiegh is calibrated with :
                Move the nozzel to the middle
                G30
                than moving nozzel down till it hits the bed
                G92 Z0
                G1 Z10
                G30 S-1

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                  last edited by

                  @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                  @fcwilt all of that is done see in the homeZ and the trigger hiegh is calibrated with :
                  Move the nozzel to the middle
                  G30
                  than moving nozzel down till it hits the bed
                  G92 Z0
                  G1 Z10
                  G30 S-1

                  That calibration looks fine.

                  However homeZ.g looks a bit wonky.

                  I've re-posted it here using the </> tag:

                  ; homez.g
                  ; called to home the Z axis
                  ;
                  G91               ; relative positioning
                  G1 H2 Z10 F6000   ; lift Z relative to current position
                  G1 H1 Z-500 F3000 ;Go down till endstop
                  G1 H2 Z10 F6000
                  G1 X200 Y200 F4000 ;go to midle
                  G30 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                  G92 Z0         ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                  
                  ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                  ;G91              ; relative positioning
                  ;G1 Z10 F100      ; lift Z relative to current position
                  G90              ; absolute positioning
                  

                  This line, which occurs after the G30, may be the cause of your problems:

                  G92 Z0 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)

                  On my printer, running firmware 3.2.2, after a G30 the Z position is the probe dive height (the H parameter in M558) plus the Z trigger height (the Z parameter in G31).

                  But the G92 is telling the firmware that the Z position is 0.

                  Perhaps that is correct for your firmware but it would cause a problem with mine.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • TristanKoelnundefined
                    TristanKoeln
                    last edited by

                    @fcwilt with the G92 Z(dive heigh+triger high)
                    is still the same problem

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                      last edited by fcwilt

                      @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                      @fcwilt with the G92 Z(dive heigh+triger high)
                      is still the same problem

                      After you performed the calibration routine you posted did you go back and update the G31 command with the correct Z trigger height as reported by the G30 S-1?

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • TristanKoelnundefined
                        TristanKoeln
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt jup its 3.760

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                          last edited by

                          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                          @fcwilt with the G92 Z(dive heigh+triger high)
                          is still the same problem

                          Since the G30 leaves Z at dive height + trigger height setting it again to the same value with G92 is redundant.

                          It doesn't hurt but isn't needed.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                            last edited by

                            @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                            @fcwilt jup its 3.760

                            Are you still running the "PLA" macro?

                            If so what does it look like.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • TristanKoelnundefined
                              TristanKoeln
                              last edited by

                              @fcwilt

                              G31 X-31.7 Y3,16 Z3,760 P25
                              M291 P"PLA Offset" S0 T5
                              
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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                last edited by

                                @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                @fcwilt

                                G31 X-31.7 Y3,16 Z3,760 P25
                                M291 P"PLA Offset" S0 T5
                                

                                And that is the height reported by your calibration routine?

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • TristanKoelnundefined
                                  TristanKoeln
                                  last edited by

                                  @fcwilt ya

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi,

                                    Recall that before creating a height map with G29 S0 or before loading the height map with G29 S1 you need to position the probe to the center of the bed and do a single G30 to set the Z=0 datum.

                                    Having set the Z trigger height to the value as reported by your calibration routine did you go back and re-create the height map using the new value?

                                    Are you also setting the Z=0 datum when loading the new height map?

                                    I mentioned that changing the Z trigger height to accommodate different filaments was not a good approach - one reason being is that it will mess up setting the Z=0 datum which may cause the height map to not work right.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • TristanKoelnundefined
                                      TristanKoeln
                                      last edited by

                                      @fcwilt i reprobed everything still same problem, could it be something with the zmin stop and the prob are on 2 diff heights? if yes what would be the solution

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                                      • fcwiltundefined
                                        fcwilt
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi,

                                        I've re-posted your files using the </> tag - it saves everyone the trouble of downloading your files.

                                        Would you look at them and verify they are your current files?

                                        Thanks.

                                        Frederick

                                        ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                                        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                                        
                                        ; General preferences
                                        G90                                                 ; send absolute coordinates...
                                        M83                                                 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                        M550 P"BIGCREATOR"                                  ; set printer name
                                        
                                        
                                        ; Network
                                        M552 S1                                             ;Tun Network ON
                                                                    
                                        ; Drives
                                        M569 P0 S0                                          ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                        M569 P1 S1                                          ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                        M569 P2 S1                                          ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                                        M569 P3 S0                                          ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                        M569 P4 S1                                          ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                                        M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3                                  ; set drive mapping
                                        M350 X16 Y16 Z16:16 E16 I1                          ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                        M92 X80.00 Y100.00 Z405:405.00 E750.00              ; set steps per mm
                                        M566 X1800.00 Y1800.00 Z120.00:120.00 E500.00       ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                        M203 X36000.00 Y36000.00 Z200.00:200.00 E500.00     ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                        M201 X1000.00 Y1000.00 Z400.00:400.00 E500.00       ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                        M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1000:1000 E1000 I30               ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                        M84 S30                                             ; Set idle timeout
                                        
                                        ; Axis Limits
                                        M208 X0 Y0 Z-10 S1                                  ; set axis minima
                                        M208 X440 Y440 Z400 S0                              ; set axis maxima
                                        
                                        ; Endstops
                                        M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                                        M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                                        M574 Z1 S1 P"!zstop+!e1stop"                        ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop
                                        
                                        ; Z-Probe
                                        M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T5000                 ; BLTouch connected to Z probe IN pin
                                        M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"                              ; create servo/gpio 0 on heater 3 pin on expansion connector
                                        M98 P"/macros/NORMAL_Offset"                        ; set z probe offsets
                                        
                                        M280 P0 S10                                         ; send control signal to BLTouch through servo/gpio 0                                        
                                                                                  
                                        ;G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z25                                 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                        M557 X10:390 Y10:390 S38:38                         ; define mesh grid
                                        
                                        ; Heaters
                                        M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092      ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                        M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                               ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                        M307 H0 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                        M140 H0                                             ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                        M143 H0 S120                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                        M308 S1 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4092       ; configure sensor 1 as PT1000 on pin e0temp
                                        M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                                ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                        M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                    ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                        M143 H1 S280                                        ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                                        
                                        ; Fans
                                        M950 F0 C"fan0" Q0                                  ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                        ;M106 P0 S1 H-1                                      ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F1 C"fan1" Q0                                  ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                        ;M106 P1 S1 H-1                                      ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        M950 F2 C"fan2" Q0                                  ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                                        ;M106 P2 S1 H-1                                      ; set fan 2 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                        
                                        ; Tools
                                        M563 P0 S"WaterColledHead" D0 H1 F-1                ; define tool 0
                                        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                                     ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                        G10 P0 R0 S0                                        ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                        
                                        ; Custom settings are not defined
                                        
                                        ; Miscellaneous
                                        M575 P1 S1 B57600                                   ; enable support for PanelDue
                                        M501                                                ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000"  ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
                                        
                                        G28                                                 ; home
                                        
                                        ; bed.g
                                        ; called to perform automatic bed compensation via G32
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                                        M561     ; clear any bed transform
                                        G28      ;home
                                        G29 S1   ; probe the bed and enable compensation
                                        M280 P0 S90 ; retractProbe
                                        
                                        ; homez.g
                                        ; called to home the Z axis
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                                        G91               ; relative positioning
                                        G1 H2 Z10 F6000   ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G1 H1 Z-500 F3000 ;Go down till endstop
                                        G1 H2 Z10 F6000
                                        G1 X200 Y200 F4000 ;go to midle
                                        G30 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                                        G92 Z0         ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                                        
                                        
                                        
                                        ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                        ;G91              ; relative positioning
                                        ;G1 Z10 F100      ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G90              ; absolute positioning
                                        
                                        ; homeall.g
                                        ; called to home all axes
                                        ;
                                        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                                        
                                        ;DUAL Z 
                                        M584 Z2:4   
                                        
                                        M280 P0 S90
                                        G91                     ; relative positioning
                                        G1 H2 Z10 F6000         ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F5000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                                        G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                                        G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                                        M98 Phomez.g            ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                                        G90                     ; absolute positioning
                                        G92 Z10                 ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                                        
                                        ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                                        ;G91                    ; relative positioning
                                        ;G1 Z10 F100            ; lift Z relative to current position
                                        ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
                                        
                                        
                                        

                                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        • Stephen6309undefined
                                          Stephen6309 @fcwilt
                                          last edited by

                                          @fcwilt I adjust the Z offset so I don't have to remember to do baby steps on every print. Currently I only change the filament when I run out on the spool.

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt @Stephen6309
                                            last edited by

                                            @Stephen6309 said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                            @fcwilt I adjust the Z offset so I don't have to remember to do baby steps on every print. Currently I only change the filament when I run out on the spool.

                                            As I said changing the Z trigger height may cause the height map to not work correctly.

                                            And as I said you can use the filament management feature of DWC to allow you to select different filament types and make any adjustments desired to things like extruder temp, extrusion multiplier, baby step settings and more.

                                            You don't have to do it for every print - it will happen automatically if your "print start" code invokes the the command needed to trigger the changes specified by the current filament.

                                            Here is an example of a filament configuration file. Every filament type you enter into the DWC filament management feature will have it's own configuration file.

                                            M221 S100 D0    ; set extrusion multiplier
                                            G10 S200 R0	; set extruder temps
                                            M140 S60 R0	; set bed temps
                                            

                                            Here are the commands you would place into your "print start" code that will invoke the configuration file for the currently selected filament type.

                                            T0		; select tool 0 so extruder commands below will work
                                            M703		; configure selected filament
                                            

                                            So once you select a filament type it will remain selected and every print will run the commands you have entered into the configuration file for that filament type.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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