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    Smart effector for delta printers
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    • Dougal1957undefined
      Dougal1957
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      David that is excellent news.

      So I guess we are talking about 2-3 weeks for them to be available then?

      Doug

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      • Rommieundefined
        Rommie
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        Ahhhhh I need one lol

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        • loicundefined
          loic
          last edited by

          i really love the design and the light weight
          now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

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          • loicundefined
            loic
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            @dc42:

            It's a secret until we start shipping them.

            does it will be compatible with smoothieware software?
            i hope uk shipping cost will not killing us..(it so expansive..)

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              @loic:

              does it will be compatible with smoothieware software?
              i hope uk shipping cost will not killing us..(it so expansive..)

              It should work with other electronics and firmware if you accept the default sensitivity. Whether that will work for you depends on the level of vibration of the effector during probing.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
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                @loic:

                i really love the design and the light weight
                now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

                The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                • Zesty_Lykleundefined
                  Zesty_Lykle
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                  @dc42:

                  At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

                  Yes Dougal1957 has a Nimble mounted on it and indeed, it is a great combo.
                  His pictures of the combination are on page 6 of this thread, as is the link to the adapter he used.

                  Lykle

                  Lykle
                  Design, make and enjoy life

                  Co Creator of the Zesty Nimble

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                  • Rommieundefined
                    Rommie
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                    I too will be doing the same as doug, adapter is already ordered from shapeways lol just need dc too send me an effector lol wink wink , can't wait too be fair it is a fantastic bit of kit and very good at probing from what I have seen from Doug's pictures.

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                    • loicundefined
                      loic
                      last edited by

                      @dc42:

                      @loic:

                      i really love the design and the light weight
                      now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

                      The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

                      thanks great
                      but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
                      does it piezo or other way sensor?

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                      • Rommieundefined
                        Rommie
                        last edited by

                        @loic:

                        @dc42:

                        @loic:

                        i really love the design and the light weight
                        now it will be great to have piezo sensor available for this effector with nimble it could be a beast combo

                        The nozzle contact sensor is built in, so no need for a piezo. At least one of our beta testers is looking at mounting a Nimble on it.

                        thanks great
                        but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
                        does it piezo or other way sensor?

                        From what I have seen of mesh bed comp between piezo and dc effector it wins hands down, I know doug has had experience with piezo and dc effector and he can't praise it enough. Getting to 0.002 dev on his tests

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                        • loicundefined
                          loic
                          last edited by

                          do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
                          i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

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                          • dc42undefined
                            dc42 administrators
                            last edited by

                            @loic:

                            thanks great
                            but does it will be better than a simple micro switch accuracy?
                            does it piezo or other way sensor?

                            Yes it will work better than a microswitch. I don't expect there to be any significant difference between the reproducibility of our effector and that of a piezo mounted in the hot end, if both are set up correctly.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              @loic:

                              do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
                              i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

                              I think we will publish the prices tomorrow or Tuesday.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Rommieundefined
                                Rommie
                                last edited by

                                @dc42:

                                @loic:

                                do you have an idea about the cost for a kit?
                                i will buy one for my delta xxl project +nimble

                                I think we will publish the prices tomorrow or Tuesday.

                                I will be buying one no matter what lol

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                                • DjDemonDundefined
                                  DjDemonD
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                                  Yes we can do 0.002 probing standard deviation too. If you're talking about 0.002 delta calibration deviation, then you'll need a very precise machine as well as a very precise probe, but the two go hand in hand. So far when you get to these levels of precision no previous probing tech, really enabled us to see whether the printer needed tweaking or the probe was just too vague. Now we can see the difference.

                                  To be fair the sensing modality between our system and T3P3/DC's is very similar technology. I am quite sure DC and Tony will have done a lot of work on making it strong, reliable and above all reasonable to manufacture. The key question is cost. Given the accuracy/operation is likely to be very similar.

                                  I think the market is quite big enough for two nozzle contact sensors. If you are using the PCB effector then you'll be using the nozzle contact sensor which comes with it too. If you are not then our sensors are an option.

                                  But if you still think you can compete with this type of nozzle contact tech with an IR, inductive, capacitative, BL touch, deployable probes etc, then think again.

                                  Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                  www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                  PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                  • Dougal1957undefined
                                    Dougal1957
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                                    Simon I have achieved a delta calibration this morning of 0.003 with the PCB effector.

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                                    • DjDemonDundefined
                                      DjDemonD
                                      last edited by

                                      The best I'm managing is 0.007 regularly I've seen lower but this is a lot to do with the mechanical precision of the machine, the probes are accurate enough.

                                      So well done. It's a great result.

                                      Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                      www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                      PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                      • DjDemonDundefined
                                        DjDemonD
                                        last edited by

                                        How does your setup do with Russ's probing accuracy test? https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=1330&p=1

                                        Simon. Precision Piezo Z-Probe Technology
                                        www.precisionpiezo.co.uk
                                        PT1000 cartridge sensors NOW IN, just attach to your Duet board directly!

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                                        • Dougal1957undefined
                                          Dougal1957
                                          last edited by

                                          mine have been 0.006-0.007 until this morning haven't up;oaded the stuff to russ's test to be fair but once I get fully sorted I will upload them

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                                          • Dougal1957undefined
                                            Dougal1957
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                                            36 point test gives
                                            2:12:37 PMBed probe heights: -0.015 -0.025 -0.020 -0.018 -0.020 -0.015 -0.025 -0.030 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.030 -0.020 -0.025 -0.020 -0.020 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.020 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.020 -0.020 -0.020 -0.020 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025 -0.025, mean -0.023, deviation from mean 0.003
                                            Done printing file
                                            2:10:59 PMM32 Cal pieces ABS/Probe_Testing_Single_Point_36_probes_P_values.gcode.txt
                                            File Cal pieces ABS/Probe_Testing_Single_Point_36_probes_P_values.gcode.txt selected for printing

                                            !00 point move test gives
                                            2:17:49 PMBed probe heights: -0.020 -0.012 -0.022 -0.022 -0.027 -0.027 -0.027 -0.027 -0.027 -0.022 -0.022 -0.027 -0.022 -0.022 -0.017 -0.022 -0.017 -0.027 -0.017 -0.022 -0.027 -0.027 -0.027 -0.017 -0.005, mean -0.022, deviation from mean 0.005
                                            Done printing file
                                            2:13:37 PMM32 Cal pieces ABS/Probe_Testing_moving_100-100_probe_0-0_25_Point_p_values_.gcode.txt
                                            File Cal pieces ABS/Probe_Testing_moving_100-100_probe_0-0_25_Point_p_values_.gcode.txt selected for printing

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