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    uneumann36
    last edited by 5 May 2021, 09:40

    Hey, thank you for your fast reply.
    I am also thinking a new board like Duet3 is the best solution.
    Do you know if the Duet3 MB6HC has the same size like the duet2 wifi?
    And is it possible to use my existing Panel that is now connect to my Duet2 wifi?

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      dc42 administrators @uneumann36
      last edited by dc42 5 May 2021, 09:45 5 May 2021, 09:44

      Duet 3 MB6HC is larger than Duet WiFi. Duet 3 Mini is the same size and has the same mounting hole positions, however the connectors are in different places. Both support PanelDue displays.

      The MB6HC has more powerful stepper drivers than the Duet WiFi. The Mini has less powerful drivers. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/The_Duet_family_of_motion_control_electronics for a summary of the differences.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        uneumann36
        last edited by 5 May 2021, 16:33

        Hey, i am now at home and play with my Duet2 wifi and 3 in 1 out Hotend and extruders.

        I connect 2 extruders to duet2 to see how it works.
        In the moment i want only use 2 extruders.

        1 Extruder is working fine.
        I try to setup my config.
        But i don´t see at DWC my second extruder so i can´t switch.

        What do i wrong?

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          deckingman @uneumann36
          last edited by 5 May 2021, 17:24

          @uneumann36 It's hard to say what you've done wrong unless you tell us what you've done. Suggest you post your configuration file, then one of us might be able to help.

          Btw, if you only load filament into 2 of the 3 inputs, then things will get very messy because filament will be forced back out of the unused input.

          Ian
          https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
          https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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            dc42 administrators @uneumann36
            last edited by 5 May 2021, 17:25

            @uneumann36 have you read https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Tool_definition_section ?

            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              uneumann36
              last edited by 5 May 2021, 17:44

              Thank you for your answers

              So i am Not a Programming guy, so i do ist by learning by doing.😊

              In this First step i will Try to keep this working
              The Print Results are Not importent in the moment.

              So do i Unterstand Right ? When conifg is right, i can Heat up the hotend, make on dwc for example extrude 100 mm filament at 2mm/ sek.
              And on dwc i can swop from one to the other extruder by selecting tool???

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                uneumann36
                last edited by 6 May 2021, 05:47

                Any feedback about my question? 😬

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                  jay_s_uk @uneumann36
                  last edited by 6 May 2021, 05:56

                  @uneumann36 The answer is yes

                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                    uneumann36
                    last edited by 6 May 2021, 05:58

                    Ok, thank you very much.
                    And sorry for the may stupid question from me.
                    But as i told you, the programming stuff is not my favorite,
                    and i have to learn a lot !

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                      deckingman @uneumann36
                      last edited by 6 May 2021, 07:32

                      @uneumann36 You asked the question "What have I done wrong?" How can anyone answer that when you won't tell us what you have done? I say again, post your configuration file, then we can see.

                      Ian
                      https://somei3deas.wordpress.com/
                      https://www.youtube.com/@deckingman

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                        uneumann36
                        last edited by 6 May 2021, 07:37

                        Hey all good!
                        I want to say thank you , all this information bring me forward.
                        ANd i will post my config when i am home

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                          uneumann36
                          last edited by 6 May 2021, 15:11

                          Hey Guys
                          I am back home and play with my printer and extruder.

                          Of course i am playing in the moment. I will try to heat up the hotend, und make hand extrusion via DWC from extruder 1 and after this extruder 2.

                          So i make a new config via config tool and bring it to printer.
                          Now i see 2 Tools , and Bed.
                          If i switch on tool on, both goes on. and also off when i switch on off.

                          How to test both extruders via DWC ?

                          Here my config , hope someone has an idea. :

                          ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                          ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                          ;
                          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Thu May 06 2021 17:04:43 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)

                          ; General preferences
                          G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
                          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                          M550 P"ENDER 5 Duet" ; set printer name

                          ; Network
                          M552 S1 ; enable network
                          M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
                          M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
                          M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

                          ; Drives
                          M569 P0 S1 ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                          M569 P1 S1 ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                          M569 P2 S1 ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                          M569 P3 S1 ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                          M569 P4 S1 ; physical drive 4 goes forwards
                          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3:4 ; set drive mapping
                          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                          M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z400.00 E420.00:420.00 ; set steps per mm
                          M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00:120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                          M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                          M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                          M906 X1200 Y1200 Z1200 E1500:1500 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                          ; Axis Limits
                          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
                          M208 X220 Y220 Z300 S0 ; set axis maxima

                          ; Endstops
                          M574 X1 S1 P"xstop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                          M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop" ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                          M574 Z1 S2 ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z

                          ; Z-Probe
                          M950 S0 C"exp.heater7" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                          M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z2.5 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                          M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

                          ; Heaters
                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                          M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                          M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                          M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                          M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C

                          ; Fans
                          M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                          M106 P0 S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                          M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                          M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on

                          ; Tools
                          M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                          M563 P1 D1 H1 F0 ; define tool 1
                          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
                          G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                          ; Custom settings are not defined

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                            uneumann36
                            last edited by 9 May 2021, 12:01

                            Hi Guys

                            At least i get my THC-01 working.
                            But i am not really happy how it works.

                            Also i do not know how to slice a object.

                            May somebody has experiance with this hot end.

                            And a question from my side:
                            Is it possible to change the extruder while printing with no fail?
                            So that extruder 0 pull back filament 30mm and extruder 1 push filament 30mm and continue printing?
                            How can this work?

                            Regards
                            Uwe

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                              engikeneer @uneumann36
                              last edited by 9 May 2021, 22:58

                              @uneumann36 Yes you can do it, but you need to set a few things up. FYI I don't have a hotend like yours, but I do use a multi-tool printer (E3D chimera) - will try and make it relevant for yours.

                              Step 1 - you need to define the tool change macros that get executed when you switch between Tool 0 & Tool 1. You'll find information on these here:
                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCartesianPrinter#Section_Tool_change_files

                              You can set up most of this in the slicer, but I find it more intuitive to put in the printer itself.

                              I think in tfree0.g & tfree1.g you'll add the retract 30mm (though the amazon product description I read says 45mm!). e.g.

                              G1 E-30 F300 ; retract 30mm @ 300mm/min

                              I think in tpre0.g & tpre1.g you could put the movement command as the docs suggest, or leave blank

                              Then in tpost0.g & tpost1.g, you would de-retract the 30mm (or 45mm!). e.g.

                              G1 E30 F300 ; deretract 30mm @ 300mm/min

                              In your slicer (I use PrusaSlicer), you will need to setup your printer as a multi-tool (or multi-extruder) printer. That then should open up the settings you need.

                              In PrusaSlicer, you can import a pair of STLs (one for either tool) and it will allow you to select the tool for either one. It will then put the 'T0' and 'T1' commands in the correct places to switch tool through the print.

                              You will want to play around with a few of the settings in your slicer (e.g. maybe using a prime tower). You may also need to tweak the tool change macros a bit (e.g. faster/slower retract/unretract, change the distance etc).

                              It can all be a bit complicated and will take quite a bit of tuning to get it right, but you'll get there 🙂

                              E3D TC with D3Mini and Toolboards.
                              Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                              i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                                uneumann36 @engikeneer
                                last edited by 10 May 2021, 05:20

                                @engikeneer
                                Thank your very much for your feedback.

                                Unfortunatly i have not big experiance in programing stuff.
                                Let me say, in the moment i just can swim a bit.

                                Could you explain me how to do this, what is the exact code for this, and how and where to put it in? 🙄

                                I am sorry for my stupid question.

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                                  uneumann36
                                  last edited by 10 May 2021, 11:40

                                  Or any other guy can help me?

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                                    uneumann36
                                    last edited by 10 May 2021, 14:48

                                    I try different things, so i am to stupid to adjust this.

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                                      uneumann36
                                      last edited by 10 May 2021, 17:20

                                      😧

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by 10 May 2021, 22:44

                                        What part of @engikeneer's excellent reply are you getting stuck on?

                                        You can't expect strangers on the internet to create a perfectly working configuration for your printer. Even if we wanted to, we don't know exactly what you have. You'll need to read and research and learn as you go. We can answer specific questions, but you'll have to give us something to work with.

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                                          uneumann36 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by 11 May 2021, 08:34

                                          @phaedrux
                                          First, i am very sorry for my last comment.
                                          Because i am frustrated why i can´t get this working.
                                          But the explanation of you and your colleagues are super perfect.
                                          Maybe i am to stupid.

                                          Maybe i understand this wrong!

                                          I would keep my triple working in two steps.

                                          First, change filament with DWC myself while printing.
                                          If this is working , i can try to do it inside of the slicer.

                                          For my better understanding :

                                          It is possible to change the filament while printing?
                                          For example : I print a part that is normal sliced , and with DWC i change the Extruder by hand. And the software pull back the filament automatically the stored length , and the requested Extruder start and extruded the stored length and then continue printing ????

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