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    • JamesMundefined
      JamesM
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      I read that you can use G29 S3 to save different name heightmaps but it doesn't say if that command will also probe the bed to create the mesh heightmap.

      I just switched one of my printers to the DC42 ir probe and it's working well but now I need to create different heightmaps due to how it senses different material beds like a textured PEI sheet. I got a new cast bed with high strength magnets embedded in it which didn't work well with my bltouch (yes, the plastic tipped one was still affected).

      Thanks for any help/answers.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @JamesM
        last edited by

        @jamesm

        It's easy enough to create and load different height maps.

        The question is are you ok with doing it "manually" via macros or would you like something more elegant and "automatic".

        With firmware 3.3.0 you have access to variables which can make doing this easier.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • o_lampeundefined
          o_lampe @JamesM
          last edited by

          @jamesm
          to me it seems, you have to probe the bed with S0 and then use S3 P"name.csv" to store it under a new name.
          Question is, if a removable bed surface needs it's own heightmap (not just an offset) ; how can you make sure it's at the same place next print? (read: is the heightmap still valid?)

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @o_lampe
            last edited by

            @o_lampe said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

            Question is, if a removable bed surface needs it's own heightmap (not just an offset) ; how can you make sure it's at the same place next print?

            Do you mean it is placed back in the printer at the same exact location each time?

            If so I have the BuildTak system and have not found that to be a problem.

            I try to put it back each time in the same place but it's not perfect.

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators @o_lampe
              last edited by dc42

              @o_lampe said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

              to me it seems, you have to probe the bed with S0 and then use S3 P"name.csv" to store it under a new name.

              Correct. Send G29 S0 to probe the bed and save it as heightmap.csv. Then either rename it within DWC, or save it again under a new name using e.g. G29 S3 P"myNewHeightMap.csv".

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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              • JamesMundefined
                JamesM @fcwilt
                last edited by JamesM

                @fcwilt I'm on 2.05 firmware and I plan on just putting the command in the start code in my slicer to choose which heightmap I load. I make different printer profiles based on nozzle size already so I'll just add extra ones based on the build sheet I'm using for each print.

                I've been to chicken to upgrade to 3.x firmware and relearn all the config stuff..LOL.

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                • JamesMundefined
                  JamesM @dc42
                  last edited by

                  @dc42 @o_lampe Gotcha.

                  Positioning the removable build sheets is easy and I'm not worried about getting them lined up.

                  Thanks.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @JamesM
                    last edited by

                    @jamesm said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

                    I've been to chicken to upgrade to 3.x firmware and relearn all the config stuff..LOL.

                    I put off upgrading but as I read about what was needed I went ahead.

                    It was easier than I thought with just a few changes needed.

                    I am VERY glad I did - I suggest you do the same - I would be glad to help.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • JamesMundefined
                      JamesM @fcwilt
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt Maybe I'll give it a shot tonight. If I want to downgrade back to 2.05 how difficult is it? Can I simply just have two different SD cards and swap it back or will uploading 2.05 through DWC do it?

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                      • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                        DIY-O-Sphere @JamesM
                        last edited by

                        @jamesm said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

                        I've been to chicken to upgrade to 3.x firmware

                        Nowerdays the config tool is doing the job quite well.
                        Be a brave chicken...

                        (UTC+1)

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                        • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                          DIY-O-Sphere
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                          @jamesm
                          To update to RRF3.3 you first have to go to RRF3.0.
                          It's good to have the old files on the backup sd card and have a clean install.
                          If you have some patience until we have solved eventually problems, downgrade is not an option.

                          (UTC+1)

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                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                            DIY-O-Sphere @DIY-O-Sphere
                            last edited by

                            @JamesM :

                            downgrade is not an option.

                            All joking aside, you can do this by uploading the zip file of the old version. Then restore the old files or in your case swap the card.

                            (UTC+1)

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @JamesM
                              last edited by

                              @jamesm said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

                              @fcwilt Maybe I'll give it a shot tonight. If I want to downgrade back to 2.05 how difficult is it? Can I simply just have two different SD cards and swap it back or will uploading 2.05 through DWC do it?

                              I was able to downgrade from one v3 release to another but I never tried to downgrade to a v2 release - I never wanted to - you won't either.

                              If you want to ZIP up all the files in your v2 system folder and post it here (add .txt to the existing .zip extension first) I will take a look. I might be able to quickly convert them for you.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • JamesMundefined
                                JamesM @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt I have made backups of the files already. I do that whenever I make changes and I zip them all using DWC and save them on my network drive. I'm actually making a full copy of the SD card right now to another SD card I have and then will start the upgrade process loading 3.0 and then 3.3 from what I read.

                                Then I need to set up my triple z files and whatnot after the upgrade.

                                Fingers crossed this goes smooth but I honestly don't think I'll see any benefit from 3.x since I don't plan on using any of the crazy new features. I'll do it anyway just to be current and then if it goes smoothly I can do it to my other 2 printers.

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @JamesM
                                  last edited by

                                  @jamesm

                                  Good.

                                  I think you be happy.

                                  If you need help don't hesitate to ask.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • JamesMundefined
                                    JamesM @fcwilt
                                    last edited by JamesM

                                    @fcwilt Welp....how I did the config on the reprap configurator messed it up and now I can't connect. I picked a static ip address and after I uploaded everything and rebooted it now I can't connect. Time to bust out my laptop and connect to it via usb and try to get the wifi back on DHCP so I can connect.

                                    New laptop too so I don't have YAT on it at the moment.

                                    UGH.

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @JamesM
                                      last edited by fcwilt

                                      @jamesm said in Question about multiple heightmaps:

                                      @fcwilt Welp....how I did the config on the reprap configurator messed it up and now I can't connect. I picked a static ip address and after I uploaded everything and rebooted it now I can't connect. Time to bust out my laptop and connect to it via usb and try to get the wifi back on DHCP so I can connect.

                                      New laptop too so I don't have YAT on it at the moment.

                                      UGH.

                                      Sorry to hear that. But if you know how to connect via USB you should be fine.

                                      Did you use that tool to create a new configuration from scratch? Most of your old config was useable.

                                      The biggest change I recall was having to create named pins (v2 had a fixed set names pins) using M950. The other commands that needed to reference to the pin then used a number that was assigned to the pin in M950.

                                      There was a change in the way heater tuning was done but the process was the same.

                                      I'm here.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • JamesMundefined
                                        JamesM @fcwilt
                                        last edited by

                                        @fcwilt I was just about to ask about that. I have a thermistor that I use to monitor chamber temps in my printer and wondered how the heck I set that up.

                                        I'm using the thermistor that is normally for E1 for that.

                                        My old line was M305 S"Chamber temp" P103 T100000 B3988 C0 X2

                                        What I'm reading is that I now have to create a virtual heater first using M950 and this is where I'm getting confused.

                                        Do I make a line like M950 H2 "Chamber temp" and then make my line M308 S2 P"e1temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ???

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @JamesM
                                          last edited by fcwilt

                                          @jamesm

                                          Here is the part of a config.g file from one of my printers that deals with heaters:

                                          ; ****************************************************************************************************
                                          ; heaters
                                          ; ****************************************************************************************************
                                          
                                          M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138             ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor
                                          M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 Q10                                  ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                          M307 H0 B0 S1.00 A107.3 C136.0 D2.8 V12.0                  ; values A, C, D, V determined by running heater tuning
                                          M140 H0                                                    ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M143 H0 S115                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 0
                                          
                                          M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor (SLICE)
                                          M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 Q250                                  ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00 A362.4 C121.7 D4.4 V11.8                  ; values A, C, D, V determined by running heater tuning
                                          M143 H1 S250                                               ; set temperature limit for heater 1
                                          
                                          

                                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • JamesMundefined
                                            JamesM @fcwilt
                                            last edited by

                                            @fcwilt I managed to get it working. Took me a bit to figure out what I screwed up for homing the y-axis but I had forgot to tell it home high in the configurator and had to change that setting and in the homey and homeall files.

                                            Now to check everything on it to make sure it works ok and do a test print.

                                            Thanks for your patience and willingness to help me.

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