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    fotomas
    last edited by 11 Jul 2021, 19:34

    I have been running a Two Trees Sapphire Pus (CoreXY) printer with a Duet WiFi Clone for 6 months without any issues.

    I just upgraded to a Duet Mini 5+ with a toolboard. Swapped boards and removed all the unnecessary hotend wiring. So the stepper motor wiring is not modified in any way.

    I can not run my x/y motors above 500 mA. It starts to resonate very badly and display errors:
    Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s) 3
    Error: over temperature shutdown reported by driver(s) 1
    Warning: high temperature reported by driver(s) 1 3

    Driver 1 and 3 are my X / Y motors.

    I also have not managed to get the sensor less homing to work reliable again.

    At 500 mA it runs smoothly and quiet and prints ok, if it was not for loosing steps sometimes. So I need to use higher current ( I assume).

    What could be wrong?
    Faulty board?
    Incorrect configuration? (I also moved from firmware 2 -> 3 and may have missed something)

    /fotomas

    config.g

    ; Configuration file for Duet 3 Mini 5+ (firmware version 3)
    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
    ;
    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Mon Jul 05 2021 16:50:46 GMT+0200 (Central European Summer Time)
    ; General preferences
    G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
    M669 K1 ; select CoreXY mode
    ; Network
    M552 S1 ; enable network
    M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
    M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
    M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet
    ; X/Y Drives
    M569 P0.1 S1 V50 ; physical drive 0.1
    M569 P0.3 S0 V50 ; physical drive 0.3
    M584 X0.1 Y0.3 ; set drive mapping
    ; Z Drives
    M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0
    M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4
    M584 Z0.0:0.4 ; set drive mapping
    M671 X-12:323 Y150:150 S10.0 ; bedtild probe positions
    ; Extruder drive
    M569 P121.0 S0 ; physical drive 121.0 Extruder
    M584 E121.0 ; set drive mapping
    M92 X80 Y80 Z400.00 E420.00 ; set steps per mm
    M350 X128 Y128 Z256 E64 I1 ; microstepping
    M566 X350.00 Y350.00 Z120.00 E600.0 ; set jerk (maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min))
    M203 X30000.00 Y30000.00 Z250.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
    M201 X300.00 Y300.00 Z500.00 E350.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2) DEFAULT 500
    M906 X800 Y800 Z700 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
    M915 X Y R0 F0 S2 ; motor stall detection S = Detection sensitivity
    ; Axis Limits
    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
    M208 X290 Y290 Z290 S0 ; set axis maxim
    ; Endstops
    M574 X1 Y1 S3 ; set endstops controlled by motor stall detection
    ; Z-Probe
    M950 S0 C"^121.io0.out" ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
    M558 P9 C"^121.io0.in" H5 F120 T6000 ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
    G31 P500 X0 Y-40 Z1.75 ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
    M557 X5:280 Y5:280 S15 ; define mesh grid
    ; Heaters
    ;Bed
    M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
    M950 H0 C"out0" T0 ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    ;Hotend
    M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
    M950 H1 C"121.out0" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on 121.out0 and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"121.out2" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin 121.out2 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S0 H1 T45 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F1 C"121.out1" Q25 ; create fan 1 on pin 121.out1 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    ; Tools
    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
    ; Accelerometer
    M955 P121.0 I16 R12
    ; Custom settings are not defined
    ; Miscellaneous
    M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue;
    M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
    ;M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss
    T0 ; select first tool

    homeall.g

    ; homeall.g
    ; called to home all axes
    M400
    M913 X18 Y18 ; drop motor current
    ;M906 X176 Y176
    M400 G91; relative positioning
    G1 H2 Z5 F4000 ; lower Z relative to current position
    G1 H1 X-320 F6000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop
    G1 X60
    M400
    G1 H1 Y-320 F6000 ; move quickly to Y axis endstop and stop
    G90 ; absolute positioning
    M400
    M913 X100 Y100
    ;M906 X800 Y800
    G1 X162 Y150 F6000 ; go to first probe point
    G30 ; home Z by probing the bed
    G29 S1
    **undefined**
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      Phaedrux Moderator @fotomas
      last edited by Phaedrux 7 Nov 2021, 21:50 11 Jul 2021, 21:49

      @fotomas said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s):

      M569 P0.1 S1 V50 ; physical drive 0.1 M569 P0.3 S0 V50 ; physical drive 0.3

      Do you get the same if you run in spreadcycle the entire time?

      Have you tried running x16 microsteps across the board yet?

      What firmware version are you running? Should be 3.3.

      What PSU voltage?

      Can you share the results of M122 and M98 P"config.g"?

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        fotomas @Phaedrux
        last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 07:30

        @phaedrux

        With spreadcycle all the time, D2 as in for eg. M569 P0.1 S1 D2
        homing just makes it stand still and buzz. I hope I have understood M569 correctly.

        x16 microstepping (D2 removed and V50 back) makes things better, but the resonance increases as it picks up speed until it detects a false sensor less endstopp. It is like some kind of vibration that counteracts the movement.

        Video of homing @ 500 mA https://youtu.be/Kg_PY0-1OhE (works fine)

        Video of homing @ 800 mA https://youtu.be/myc5rtT7meU (problems...)

        Firmware

        M115
        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.3 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-06-15 21:46:20

        PSU voltage ~24.5

        M122
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:46:11) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode)
        Board ID: DL70G-S396U-D65J0-40KMW-2303Z-HP9WR
        Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (25 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 102724
        Dynamic ram: 106072 of which 60 recycled
        Never used RAM 34848, free system stack 136 words
        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,16.2%,258) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,373) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,305) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,798) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,371) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,347) TMC(notifyWait,0.7%,115) MAIN(running,82.1%,426) IDLE(ready,0.1%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,264), total 100.0%
        Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 00:03:16 ago, cause: software
        Last software reset at 2021-07-12 09:11, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 34848, slot 0
        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
        Error status: 0x00
        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
        MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 196361, completed 196360, timed out 0, errs 0
        Step timer max interval 752
        MCU temperature: min 25.3, current 26.4, max 27.1
        Supply voltage: min 24.2, current 24.6, max 24.8, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
        Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
        Driver 0: position 24960, standstill, SG min/max 0/4, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 35, reads 10306, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
        Driver 1: position 960, short-to-ground, standstill, SG min/max 2/336, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 40, reads 10304, writes 14, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
        Driver 2: position 2700, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 29, reads 10308, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
        Driver 3: position 0, short-to-ground, standstill, SG min/max 2/340, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 39, reads 10303, writes 14, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
        Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/2, read errors 0, write errors 1, ifcnt 35, reads 10306, writes 12, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
        Driver 5: position 0, assumed not present
        Driver 6: position 0, assumed not present
        Date/time: 2021-07-12 09:15:11
        Cache data hit count 371153997
        Slowest loop: 7.32ms; fastest: 0.10ms
        === Storage ===
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
        SD card longest read time 3.2ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
        === Move ===
        DMs created 83, maxWait 23259ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
        === MainDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 7, completed moves 7, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === AuxDDARing ===
        Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
        Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 0
        Movement lock held by null
        HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        File is idle in state(s) 0
        USB is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
        Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty.
        === CAN ===
        Messages queued 1795, received 2380, lost 0, longest wait 2ms for reply type 6031, peak Tx sync delay 177, free buffers 17 (min 16), ts 982/981/0
        Tx timeouts 0,0,0,0,0,0
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 10.80ms; fastest: 0.00ms
        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
        - WiFi -
        Network state is active
        WiFi module is connected to access point
        Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
        WiFi firmware version 1.26
        WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:ef:4b
        WiFi Vcc 3.41, reset reason Power up
        WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 26664
        WiFi IP address 192.168.0.117
        WiFi signal strength -51dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
        Clock register 00002002
        Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
        M98 P"config.g"
        HTTP is enabled on port 80
        FTP is disabled
        TELNET is disabled
        Accelerometer 121:0 with orientation 16 samples at 1344Hz with 12-bit resolution
        Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 827C
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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by Phaedrux 13 Jul 2021, 05:41

          What are the specs of the motors? Do they have high back emf by chance?

          Also take a look at this page.

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_Stepper_Motor_Drivers

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            tony449777
            last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 02:24

            Check your motor winding specs on the manufacturer page. I had the same problem. Bought LDO steppers but the harness came from somewhere else. I just released the pins from the plug on the stepper side and reconfigured them correctly according to the manufacturers diagram.

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              fotomas @tony449777
              last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 06:41

              @tony449777 If your experience should apply in thiss case the pin out for the stepper motors has to differ between the duet WiFi and the mini 5. Which I highly doubt.

              (Away from printer will investigate more when I get hold of stepper motor model no)

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                tony449777 @fotomas
                last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 14:05

                @fotomas It wasn’t the pin out of the driver that was wrong. It was how the output of the driver was actually connected to the coils of the motor. They were physically in the motor plug in the wrong configuration.

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                  dc42 administrators @tony449777
                  last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 14:09

                  @tony449777 said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s):

                  @fotomas It wasn’t the pin out of the driver that was wrong. It was how the output of the driver was actually connected to the coils of the motor. They were physically in the motor plug in the wrong configuration.

                  This is a common issue because different manufacturers of stepper motors use different pinouts. When using motors with a built-in socket and separate cable, ALWAYS check the phases.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    tony449777 @dc42
                    last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 14:11

                    @dc42 Exactly. That’s what I’m trying to say,

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                      Phaedrux Moderator @tony449777
                      last edited by 14 Jul 2021, 15:28

                      @tony449777 said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Error: short-to-ground reported by driver(s):

                      Check your motor winding specs on the manufacturer page. I had the same problem. Bought LDO steppers but the harness came from somewhere else. I just released the pins from the plug on the stepper side and reconfigured them correctly according to the manufacturers diagram.

                      If this were the case here and the phases not paired correctly there would be no movement at all, but if you want the videos it's clear there is motion, but at a certain speed there is a lot of vibration and noise.

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                        fotomas @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 21 Jul 2021, 08:18

                        I got things working.

                        I checked wiring, everything was ok (as exprected since wiring was not modified since working ok on a Duet Wifi)

                        I increased the acceleration (M201) on X/Y from 300 to 800 this made it possible to increase the motor currents on X/Y to 800.

                        As an effect of this I had to tweak the sensorless homing to use less current.

                        So increased acceleration seems to be the solution, the problem may still be there but pushed out of bounds for my usage/speeds by increased acceleration.

                        I do not understand how increased acceleration have effected things. Maybe someone can explain this? It would be nice to know if I run into more trouble.

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                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by 22 Jul 2021, 00:18

                          That's an interesting result. I don't understand why higher acceleration would solve it either. You've made the motor/stepper combo happy at least.

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