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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
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      Sorry, dive height. M558 H

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        BStump @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux
        Yes, anything to improve the time is probing would be good. take near 45 mins now to do 400 points

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @BStump
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          @bstump Your max Z speed is set to 200. You could probably probe at that speed reliably especially if you're double probing each point. You already have a dwell time between probe moves to allow it to settle.

          The dive height just needs to be high enough for the pin to reliably drop and the z axis reach steady motion before it triggers.

          Your trigger height is 1.0mm which seems too perfect. Have you actually measured it?

          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

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            BStump @Phaedrux
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            @phaedrux said in Verifying mesh levelling:

            @bstump Your max Z speed is set to 200. You could probably probe at that speed reliably especially if you're double probing each point. You already have a dwell time between probe moves to allow it to settle.

            The dive height just needs to be high enough for the pin to reliably drop and the z axis reach steady motion before it triggers.

            Your trigger height is 1.0mm which seems too perfect. Have you actually measured it?

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

            I do not know if the guys have verified the trigger height or not.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @BStump
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              @bstump said in Verifying mesh levelling:

              @phaedrux
              Yes, anything to improve the time is probing would be good. take near 45 mins now to do 400 points

              There is little to do to drastically improve the time.

              The biggest "timesaver" would find a way to create and install a bed so flat that mesh compensation isn't needed.

              If you solve that problem let me know - I could use a totally flat bed.

              Frederick

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                I could use a totally flat bed.

                I'm still waiting for someone to try the self leveling concrete bed. At 1 sq meter it might be practical... just saying.

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                  @phaedrux said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                  @fcwilt said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                  I could use a totally flat bed.

                  I'm still waiting for someone to try the self leveling concrete bed. At 1 sq meter it might be practical... just saying.

                  That would be a bitch to heat up and nasty with regards to spalling.

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                    dc42 administrators @fcwilt
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                    @fcwilt said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                    @bstump said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                    @phaedrux
                    Yes, anything to improve the time is probing would be good. take near 45 mins now to do 400 points

                    There is little to do to drastically improve the time.

                    The biggest "timesaver" would find a way to create and install a bed so flat that mesh compensation isn't needed.

                    If you solve that problem let me know - I could use a totally flat bed.

                    Frederick

                    You would also need a gantry with negligible sag, which is also not easy when spanning 1m.

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @dc42
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                      @dc42 said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                      You would also need a gantry with negligible sag, which is also not easy when spanning 1m.

                      Indeed - I would never tackle trying to build such a large printer - I have trouble getting a satisfactorily flat bed on a 300x300 printer.

                      Wish I had a nice large mill but mine is too small to handle 300x300.

                      Sigh.

                      Frederick

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        According to the config file it's a Modix Big Meter.

                        https://www.modix3d.com/tech-spec/

                        Should be fairly sturdy.

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                          BStump @fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                          @dc42 said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                          You would also need a gantry with negligible sag, which is also not easy when spanning 1m.

                          Indeed - I would never tackle trying to build such a large printer - I have trouble getting a satisfactorily flat bed on a 300x300 printer.

                          Wish I had a nice large mill but mine is too small to handle 300x300.

                          Sigh.

                          Frederick

                          The bed of the Modix is made from this

                          https://www.howardprecision.com/aluminum/aluminum-cast-tool-jig-plate-stock-list/mic-6-aluminum/

                          Sadly Modix only provides grub leveling screws on the underside middle supports and not the perimeter ones. We may have to add them to the perimeter.

                          Grub Screw Leveling.png

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                            fcwilt @BStump
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                            @bstump

                            Adjusting that many grub screws is not going to be any fun at all.

                            I have just four and even that is tedious.

                            Frederick

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @BStump
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                              @bstump said in Verifying mesh levelling:

                              Sadly Modix only provides grub leveling screws on the underside middle supports and not the perimeter ones. We may have to add them to the perimeter.

                              Given the weight of the bed the grub screws on the center area may be just to counteract sag, so the perimeter may be less critical.

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