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BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?

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    SignPostMan @fcwilt
    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:38

    @fcwilt I have tried CAT 5 cable and now I have 18 gauge 4 conductor that is not twisted pair

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      SignPostMan @SignPostMan
      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:41

      Should it look like this?
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        fcwilt @SignPostMan
        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:44

        @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

        @fcwilt I have tried CAT 5 cable and now I have 18 gauge 4 conductor that is not twisted pair

        I would remove one twisted pair from the CAT cable and use that. And I would make sure to route it away from any source of noise, like stepper wiring.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          fcwilt @SignPostMan
          last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:44

          @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

          Should it look like this?
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          Yes

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            SignPostMan @SignPostMan
            last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:45

            Adding ^ didn't seem to help

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              fcwilt @SignPostMan
              last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:46

              @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

              Adding ^ didn't seem to help

              And you re-booted after making the change?

              It was worth a try.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                Phaedrux Moderator @SignPostMan
                last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:55

                @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                Should it look like this?
                f1377b72-5ba5-4dd6-8b4e-2f3fb4025180-image.png

                On the Duet3 the pullup should not be enabled.

                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                  fcwilt @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:57

                  @phaedrux said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                  @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                  Should it look like this?
                  f1377b72-5ba5-4dd6-8b4e-2f3fb4025180-image.png

                  On the Duet3 the pullup should not be enabled.

                  True but at this point any change might help point to the problem.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:59

                    @fcwilt said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                    @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                    @fcwilt I have tried CAT 5 cable and now I have 18 gauge 4 conductor that is not twisted pair

                    I would remove one twisted pair from the CAT cable and use that. And I would make sure to route it away from any source of noise, like stepper wiring.

                    Frederick

                    This might be your best bet. Short of a toolboard.

                    As a sanity check can you test the bltouch with a much shorter length of wire with the probe not mounted on the print head? Keep it vertical and trigger it by hand to see if it will stop the Z axis.

                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                      SignPostMan @fcwilt
                      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 19:18

                      @fcwilt Agree

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                        SignPostMan @Phaedrux
                        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 19:57

                        @phaedrux What other probe do you suggest that would work with a long cable?

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                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:09

                          Maybe a good quality Normally Closed microswitch that you could manually mount before probing with some good quality shielded wire? Or a conductive touch plate that could be moved under the nozzle?

                          With a printer that size options may be limited?

                          With better wire the BLTouch may be viable as well.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            fcwilt @SignPostMan
                            last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:16

                            @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                            @phaedrux What other probe do you suggest that would work with a long cable?

                            What sort of bed do you have? What is it made of. What sort of surface do you print on?

                            Thanks.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              SignPostMan @fcwilt
                              last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:39

                              @fcwilt Right now I have a piece of corrugated plastic, so the probe does not get destroyed. I am going to have a aluminum with steel overlay when complete.

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                                fcwilt @SignPostMan
                                last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:45

                                @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                                @fcwilt Right now I have a piece of corrugated plastic, so the probe does not get destroyed. I am going to have a aluminum with steel overlay when complete.

                                Will there be any magnets involved like you find in the Buildtak system?

                                Thanks.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  SignPostMan @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:49

                                  @phaedrux I just shortened the cables and put new fittings on the end

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                                    SignPostMan @SignPostMan
                                    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:50

                                    Still have exactly same issue.

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                                      fcwilt @SignPostMan
                                      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:52

                                      @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                                      Still have exactly same issue.

                                      Do you have all 5 wires from the BLTouch connected to the board?

                                      Thanks.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                        SignPostMan
                                        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 21:05

                                        Yes Black and Brown connected to the same pin

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                                          SignPostMan @SignPostMan
                                          last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 21:16

                                          I might be crazy but I ordered a new BL Touch, see if it acts the same?

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