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BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?

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    Phaedrux Moderator @SignPostMan
    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:55

    @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

    Should it look like this?
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    On the Duet3 the pullup should not be enabled.

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      fcwilt @Phaedrux
      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:57

      @phaedrux said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

      @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

      Should it look like this?
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      On the Duet3 the pullup should not be enabled.

      True but at this point any change might help point to the problem.

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 18:59

        @fcwilt said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

        @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

        @fcwilt I have tried CAT 5 cable and now I have 18 gauge 4 conductor that is not twisted pair

        I would remove one twisted pair from the CAT cable and use that. And I would make sure to route it away from any source of noise, like stepper wiring.

        Frederick

        This might be your best bet. Short of a toolboard.

        As a sanity check can you test the bltouch with a much shorter length of wire with the probe not mounted on the print head? Keep it vertical and trigger it by hand to see if it will stop the Z axis.

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          SignPostMan @fcwilt
          last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 19:18

          @fcwilt Agree

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            SignPostMan @Phaedrux
            last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 19:57

            @phaedrux What other probe do you suggest that would work with a long cable?

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:09

              Maybe a good quality Normally Closed microswitch that you could manually mount before probing with some good quality shielded wire? Or a conductive touch plate that could be moved under the nozzle?

              With a printer that size options may be limited?

              With better wire the BLTouch may be viable as well.

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                fcwilt @SignPostMan
                last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:16

                @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                @phaedrux What other probe do you suggest that would work with a long cable?

                What sort of bed do you have? What is it made of. What sort of surface do you print on?

                Thanks.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  SignPostMan @fcwilt
                  last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:39

                  @fcwilt Right now I have a piece of corrugated plastic, so the probe does not get destroyed. I am going to have a aluminum with steel overlay when complete.

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                    fcwilt @SignPostMan
                    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:45

                    @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                    @fcwilt Right now I have a piece of corrugated plastic, so the probe does not get destroyed. I am going to have a aluminum with steel overlay when complete.

                    Will there be any magnets involved like you find in the Buildtak system?

                    Thanks.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      SignPostMan @Phaedrux
                      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:49

                      @phaedrux I just shortened the cables and put new fittings on the end

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                        SignPostMan @SignPostMan
                        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:50

                        Still have exactly same issue.

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                          fcwilt @SignPostMan
                          last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 20:52

                          @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                          Still have exactly same issue.

                          Do you have all 5 wires from the BLTouch connected to the board?

                          Thanks.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            SignPostMan
                            last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 21:05

                            Yes Black and Brown connected to the same pin

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                              SignPostMan @SignPostMan
                              last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 21:16

                              I might be crazy but I ordered a new BL Touch, see if it acts the same?

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                                fcwilt @SignPostMan
                                last edited by fcwilt 26 Aug 2021, 21:19

                                @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                                I might be crazy but I ordered a new BL Touch, see if it acts the same?

                                It's possible that you have a defective one.

                                It's also possible that the existing one needs adjustment. I've never had to do it but I understand there is some sort of adjustment that sometimes needs to be made.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  Phaedrux Moderator @SignPostMan
                                  last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 21:42

                                  @signpostman said in BL Touch Installation what is Servo Pin?:

                                  Still have exactly same issue.

                                  Can you explain that issue again? What exactly is it doing and what are you doing? Video?

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                                    SignPostMan @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 22:32

                                    @phaedrux When homeall, or when G30, the Z axis lowers the BL Touch until it come into contact with the bed surface. the BL Touch once in contact with the bed, it retracts as it should. The Z axis keeps descending as the BL Touch trys to extend the probe again. It cannot extend so it errors and try's to drive the BL Touch through the Bed.

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator @SignPostMan
                                      last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 23:14

                                      So the Z axis never actually stops?

                                      I dunno if this has been linked yet, but this is the safe way to test the probe.

                                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe

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                                        SignPostMan @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by 26 Aug 2021, 23:44

                                        @phaedrux I did go through that but couldn't get past this part. I think I am going to wait and see if a new probe works. Thanks for all your help, I will let you know if new probe make a difference.

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                                          SignPostMan
                                          last edited by 30 Aug 2021, 13:14

                                          I ordered a new BL Touch, installed it and now works perfectly. Looks like it was defective all along.

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