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    • Charles Fraserundefined
      Charles Fraser @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux thanks I’ll try

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      • Charles Fraserundefined
        Charles Fraser @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux

        m122 small.jpg

        M122 B1 small.jpg

        I'm guessing that means B1 is not speaking the same language (firmware) so will try to follow the firmware update instructions

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        • Charles Fraserundefined
          Charles Fraser @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux

          How do I find the address of the expansion board please?

          'If the expansion board is already communicating with the main board, send M997 B# where # is the address of the expansion board. The expansion board will commence a firmware update and the DIAG LED will go out for a while. When the update is complete, it will flash and re-sync with the main board.'

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          • Charles Fraserundefined
            Charles Fraser
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            ![0_1632675855516_IMG_3310.jpg](Uploading 100%) @phaedrux

            I added the 'Duet3Firmware-EXP3HC.bin' firmware file to the /sys folder (it would be good to have a link to where these files on gitub are on the Getting started with duet page) by opening the zipped config file from the Duet firmware config, then copying the above file into the /sys folder, then zipping it again. When I update the system files on DWC it uploads all the files then gets stuck on the 'please wait while the updates are being installed' loading graphic.

            IMG_3310.jpg

            Could this be because now there are two firmware files in the /sys folder? One for the mainboard and now another for the expansion board? I've left it updating for 20 mins which seems way too long and it doesn't come off this screen.

            Please advise and please explain every step very clearly explaining how you do something step by step. Often so much knowledge is assumed that it's not clear how to do what you say to do

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            • Charles Fraserundefined
              Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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              @Phaedrux @dc42 in-fact it only has the firmware for the expansion board in there so I don't know why it isn't installing the update. How long should it take, surely not > 20 mins?

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              • Charles Fraserundefined
                Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                @dc42 @chrishamm @Phaedrux

                P.S What on God's sweet Earth does this mean?

                A diagram maybe?) I have the correct cable specified

                'RJ11 twisted pair cables to connect the expansion board(s). When connecting a version 0.5 Duet 3 main board to an expansion board, the wires must be crossed. When connecting a version 0.6 or later Duet 3 main board to an expansion board, or connecting two expansion boards together, the cable wiring must be straight-through. Only a single twisted pair is required, connected to pins 3 and 4 (the middle 2 pins) of the connector. Pins 2 and 6 on the version 0.6 Duet 3 main board are the connections for the secondary CAN bus, but the firmware does not use this yet.
                2-core red/black cable to daisy chain power to the expansion board(s)'

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                • Charles Fraserundefined
                  Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                  @dc42 @chrishamm @Phaedrux

                  P.P.S: Why isn't the expansionboard firmware added by the firmware config tool?

                  I turned it all off after 30 mins of updating and nothing happening. Now I can't get the Pi to connect to the Duet 3 it just gets stuck on that loading screen to connect endlessly.

                  I'm going to re-install a clean firmware config on an SSD straight to the Duet 3 and then reinstal the Duet Raspian image on the Pi and start again.

                  Please provide clear instructions on how to get the expansion board firmware into the /sys folder because uncompressing, copy pasting and then recompressing does not work! Thanks

                  Charles

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                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                    Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                    @dc42 @chrishamm @Phaedrux

                    Now the Pi does not connect to the Duet 3!!!

                    I just tried to boot the Duet 3 in stand alone mode. I added a config file to a clean wipe of the SD provided and it just turns on and has this dim orange light on where the bright orange light used to be flashing. The expansion board now has an orange light on it too where previously it only had a blue light.

                    I thought this configurator tool would provide the firmware for the mainboard and the expansion board as is indicated by the process of configuring the firmware thusly. This is really not an intuitive or complete set of instructions. I feel abit conned by the lack of instructions or ability to get support on a phone etc

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                      @charles-fraser shall we roll back and get started with just the main board and then move on to the expansion board afterwards?
                      Is your preference for SBC rather than standalone?
                      Do you know what firmware version is installed on the duet 3? If you are unsure, boot the board just off USB power and use YAT to get an output of M115

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                        Charles Fraser @jay_s_uk
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                        @jay_s_uk Hi there. Who is this sorry?

                        I am trying to connect to just the mainboard and nothing. I am trying in standalone mode, but I can't find the instructions for how to connect to the board through the local host IT IS NOT PROVIDED IN THE INSTRUCTIONS like so many other things.

                        Please, whoever you are, please help me get this thing working with a set of instructions that describe each step that needs to be taken. May thanks

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                          @charles-fraser I don't work for duet3d or anything, just an end user.
                          You can follow these instructions
                          They will get you started in standalone mode.
                          But as I say, you don't actually need a config (or even an SD card) on the board to check what firmware you have installed.
                          It's pretty crucial that for SBC mode that the firmware and DSF are the same version.
                          But if we start with the basics, check the firmware version of the board and we can go from there.

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                            Charles Fraser @jay_s_uk
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                            @jay_s_uk thanks! What's the DSF?

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                            • jay_s_ukundefined
                              jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                              @charles-fraser DSF = DuetSoftwareFrame - i.e. the software running on the Pi

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              • Charles Fraserundefined
                                Charles Fraser
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                                @jay_s_uk the link you provided does not work

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                                • jay_s_ukundefined
                                  jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                                  @charles-fraser updated it. Didn't see the ) in the address and screwed it up

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                                    Charles Fraser @jay_s_uk
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                                    @jay_s_uk thanks I am trying to find the board using serial tools on my macbookpro m1 - it doesnt see the board which is now powered by that mini usb connector through the usb dongle (Macbook Pros only have usb c ports so need a dongle)

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                                      @charles-fraser hmm, i don't use a mac so I can't really help you with that one.
                                      Are you using the USB cable that came with the board?

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                                        Charles Fraser @jay_s_uk
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                                        @jay_s_uk Screenshot 2021-09-26 at 20.49.06.png

                                        there was no usb cable that came with this board. This is the duet 3

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                                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                                          jay_s_uk @Charles Fraser
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                                          @charles-fraser
                                          ok, I thought they supplied them with USB cables.
                                          I suggest trying a different micro USB cable. Not all of them send data.

                                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                                            Charles Fraser @jay_s_uk
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                                            @jay_s_uk there was no USB cable with this board this is the deut 3

                                            How do I connect to the board using the ethernet to my router. I found something about localhost.duet or something but the layout of the wiki is so anti intuitive and litterally does not branch there from the getting started menu. I cant find it in google I can't find it looking through the site for f'ing hours!

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