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    Heartleander81 @oozeBot
    last edited by 31 Aug 2021, 20:59

    @oozebot

    Thank you for your response. I'm looking forward to testing the whole thing. Is there then also a description of the cabling for the standard connection PS-on? Do you also need the external 5V connection?

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      oozeBot @Heartleander81
      last edited by oozeBot 31 Aug 2021, 21:07

      @heartleander81 Is this a Meanwell power supply? If so, it should not require an external 5v power supply, but you'd need to verify. I'll be assisting with a write-up soon, but real quick - Meanwell's specs are not clear. We worked with one of their engineers to validate and work out the details - at least for the model power supplies we utilize.

      The pson terminal on the Meanwell power supplies (that we utilize - probably all, but we can't guarantee this) are actually carrying positive voltage. Check to see if yours is as well. If so, try grounding it to the negative terminal and the power supply should go into standby mode. Meaning it can be operated by a simple switch - or through the Duet by inverting the ps-on signal which is what is upcoming in 3.4b4.

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        Heartleander81 @oozeBot
        last edited by 31 Aug 2021, 21:17

        @oozebot I get the RSP 500W 24V the days like in the picture.
        _rsp-500-24-1.jpg

        Thanks very much. That helps me further. So thank you to the whole Duet team for your work and help.

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          oozeBot
          last edited by oozeBot 31 Aug 2021, 21:19

          It appears the plug you’ll need is the DF11-4DS-2C and the matching connectors are DF11-2428SC.

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            Heartleander81
            last edited by Heartleander81 28 Sept 2021, 07:50

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              Heartleander81
              last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 11:47

              @oozebot Hi. Which contact do you use on the switching power supply? There are 4 connections and unfortunately I have not yet found any instructions from Meanwell which contact is for what. I have RC-, RC +, S- and S +.

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                Heartleander81
                last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 12:13

                Must I connect RC+ on pson and RC- on GND on the Duet3 6hc Board?

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                  oozeBot @Heartleander81
                  last edited by oozeBot 28 Sept 2021, 19:31

                  @heartleander81

                  Here is the specifications for your power supply:

                  https://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=RSP-500

                  Here are the important bits:

                  RC- Return for RC+ signal input
                  RC+ Turns the output on and off by electrical or dry contact between pin 4 ( RC+) and pin 3 (RC-). 0~0.8VDC or open: Power ON, 4~10VDC: Power OFF
                  

                  This Power Supply is a bit different than the models we use, but it's similar. I'd start by seeing if RC+ is carrying voltage. I suspect it is. If so, try connecting it to RC- to see if that sinks RC+ to ground and turns off the Power. I suspect it will. If so, to control your power supply, you will need to sink RC+ to ground to turn off power and then unsink it to turn it back on.

                  By tying the grounds between the 5v and 24v power supplies, you can then control your 24v power supply by sinking RC+ to PSON on the Duet board when used in conjunction with M80 C"!pson"

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                    Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                    last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:53

                    @oozebot
                    Hi. Rc+ to gnd 0V RC- to gnd 0V

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                      Heartleander81
                      last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:57

                      I have this found

                      IMG-20210928-WA0003.jpg

                      If I understand correctly I need an external + 5V and GND to switch it.

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                        oozeBot @Heartleander81
                        last edited by oozeBot 28 Sept 2021, 21:01

                        @heartleander81 All models we tested worked a bit different, but I think you are right. I just read this:

                        POWER OFF: 4~10VDC between RC+(Pin 4)&RC-(Pin3) on CN100
                        

                        So try tying the negative terminals between power supplies and then applying 5v to RC+ to turn off the power supply.

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                          Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                          last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 21:15

                          @oozebot ok. Then I can connect +5V on RC+ and RC- on pson. Right?

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                            oozeBot @Heartleander81
                            last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 11:48

                            @heartleander81 I think you should do some testing between the two power supplies first to validate. If it works, then I believe you are right.

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                              Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                              last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:19

                              @oozebot I connected RC + 5v and RC- to GND but the power supply did not switch off. I'm afraid that my power supply has a fault. I contacted Meanwell to see if they can give me information on how I can test whether my power supply has a fault or not because it does not work as described in the instructions

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                                oozeBot @Heartleander81
                                last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:43

                                @heartleander81 Sorry to hear that - that model appears to work differently than many of the others. Where the two power supplies negative terminals tied together?

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                                  Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                                  last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:47

                                  @oozebot I can already find a solution 🙂 I hope Meanwell answers promptly so that I can find out and possibly make a repair or get an exchange because it has a 3 year guarantee.

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                                    Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                                    last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 08:35

                                    @oozebot I doun't know why, but now is it work.

                                    I think it was a Bad connection on the power supply.

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                                      Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                                      last edited by Heartleander81 30 Sept 2021, 09:39

                                      @oozebot so there is no question now.

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                                        Heartleander81
                                        last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 10:23

                                        So now It runs. But when I switch from off to on I must reset the duet3 6hc to connect my tool board.

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                                          dc42 administrators @Heartleander81
                                          last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 11:37

                                          @heartleander81 is should be sufficient to re-run config.g.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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