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    oozeBot @Heartleander81
    last edited by oozeBot 28 Sept 2021, 19:31

    @heartleander81

    Here is the specifications for your power supply:

    https://www.meanwell.com/webapp/product/search.aspx?prod=RSP-500

    Here are the important bits:

    RC- Return for RC+ signal input
    RC+ Turns the output on and off by electrical or dry contact between pin 4 ( RC+) and pin 3 (RC-). 0~0.8VDC or open: Power ON, 4~10VDC: Power OFF

    This Power Supply is a bit different than the models we use, but it's similar. I'd start by seeing if RC+ is carrying voltage. I suspect it is. If so, try connecting it to RC- to see if that sinks RC+ to ground and turns off the Power. I suspect it will. If so, to control your power supply, you will need to sink RC+ to ground to turn off power and then unsink it to turn it back on.

    By tying the grounds between the 5v and 24v power supplies, you can then control your 24v power supply by sinking RC+ to PSON on the Duet board when used in conjunction with M80 C"!pson"

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      Heartleander81 @oozeBot
      last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:53

      @oozebot
      Hi. Rc+ to gnd 0V RC- to gnd 0V

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        Heartleander81
        last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 20:57

        I have this found

        IMG-20210928-WA0003.jpg

        If I understand correctly I need an external + 5V and GND to switch it.

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          oozeBot @Heartleander81
          last edited by oozeBot 28 Sept 2021, 21:01

          @heartleander81 All models we tested worked a bit different, but I think you are right. I just read this:

          POWER OFF: 4~10VDC between RC+(Pin 4)&RC-(Pin3) on CN100
          

          So try tying the negative terminals between power supplies and then applying 5v to RC+ to turn off the power supply.

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            Heartleander81 @oozeBot
            last edited by 28 Sept 2021, 21:15

            @oozebot ok. Then I can connect +5V on RC+ and RC- on pson. Right?

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              oozeBot @Heartleander81
              last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 11:48

              @heartleander81 I think you should do some testing between the two power supplies first to validate. If it works, then I believe you are right.

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                Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:19

                @oozebot I connected RC + 5v and RC- to GND but the power supply did not switch off. I'm afraid that my power supply has a fault. I contacted Meanwell to see if they can give me information on how I can test whether my power supply has a fault or not because it does not work as described in the instructions

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                  oozeBot @Heartleander81
                  last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:43

                  @heartleander81 Sorry to hear that - that model appears to work differently than many of the others. Where the two power supplies negative terminals tied together?

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                    Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                    last edited by 29 Sept 2021, 12:47

                    @oozebot I can already find a solution 🙂 I hope Meanwell answers promptly so that I can find out and possibly make a repair or get an exchange because it has a 3 year guarantee.

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                      Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                      last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 08:35

                      @oozebot I doun't know why, but now is it work.

                      I think it was a Bad connection on the power supply.

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                        Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                        last edited by Heartleander81 30 Sept 2021, 09:39

                        @oozebot so there is no question now.

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                          Heartleander81
                          last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 10:23

                          So now It runs. But when I switch from off to on I must reset the duet3 6hc to connect my tool board.

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                            dc42 administrators @Heartleander81
                            last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 11:37

                            @heartleander81 is should be sufficient to re-run config.g.

                            Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                            Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                            http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              Heartleander81 @dc42
                              last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 11:46

                              @dc42
                              An M999 is also possible.
                              Only when I want to pack this into a Gcode print file does it skip the M999 command because a print has started.
                              I thought that after printing with M81 S1 I would switch off the power supply and switch on the power supply with a new M80 print job, but because the M999 command in the start code does not work, this is currently not possible.
                              It is no problem to switch to on by hand and then run an M999.

                              The method with the start code would be luxury if possible

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                                oozeBot @Heartleander81
                                last edited by oozeBot 30 Sept 2021, 12:48

                                @heartleander81 Here is a snippet from our power toggle macro that might assist:

                                if boards[0].vIn.current > 22
                                M291 R"Turn on power?" P"Are you sure you want to turn on power?" S3
                                M999 A1 ; Soft-reset PanelDue
                                M999 ; Soft-reset Mainboard
                                else
                                M291 R"Turn off power?" P"Are you sure you want to turn off power?" S3
                                M0 ; Unconditional stop
                                M81 S1 ; Power off 24v power supply
                                G4 S1 ; Pause for one second
                                M999 A1 ; Soft-reset PanelDue

                                ** edit ** the M80 is in our config.g

                                M80 C"!pson"
                                M80
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                                  Heartleander81 @oozeBot
                                  last edited by Heartleander81 30 Sept 2021, 12:59

                                  @oozebot yes M80 C"!pson" have I in my config. Must M80 in the config.g?
                                  When I turn the Main switch on then is all ok. All start and the tool board is there.
                                  But when I switch with Software off and then on there is no thermistor there. After M999 is all good.

                                  How make I this with the macro?

                                  I've never worked with macros so I don't know how to do it.

                                  [ Edit ]

                                  I have copy your macro.
                                  I must changes > TO < then work power of but power not.
                                  With M80 in the macro goes the PSU on but the M999 will not be performed.

                                  Without M80 and M80 in the Firmware do the macro nothing from off to on.

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                                    Heartleander81
                                    last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 14:10

                                    if boards[0].vIn.current < 22
                                    M291 R"Turn on power" P":-)" S1 T5
                                    M80
                                    G4 S1
                                    M999 ; Soft-reset Mainboard
                                    ;M999 A1 ; Soft-reset PanelDue
                                    else
                                    M291 R"Turn off power" P" Zzzz" S1 T5
                                    M81 S1 ; Power off 24v power supply
                                    ;G4 S1 ; Pause for one second
                                    ;M999 A1 ; Soft-reset PanelDue

                                    That is what I use. I doun't have a PanelDue to time but is the next what I buy

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                                      oozeBot @Heartleander81
                                      last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 14:40

                                      @heartleander81 Awesome! Glad you got it working..

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                                        Heartleander81
                                        last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 15:51

                                        @oozebot not completed. At power on doun't come M999 AMD the board stand at working

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                                          oozeBot @Heartleander81
                                          last edited by 30 Sept 2021, 15:52

                                          @heartleander81 that's why the M80 is in our config.g..

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