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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @wouldstain
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      @wouldstain please send a M591 D0 after the pause.

      @charlesmc the sensor does take into account retraction. It looks like the pause was generated because your minimum dropped to 17% (which is below the minimum you have set). The question is why its below the minimum. It could be because there are lots of short movements and retractions in the print, it could be because your extruder is slipping slightly (maybe on very fast moves (i.e. the sensor is doing its job) or something i have not thought of. It would be helpful to have as short a bit of gcode as possible that recreates this drop to 17% or as close to 17% as possible.

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      • wouldstainundefined
        wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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        @t3p3tony

        First PLA print in a few days. It's a fairly short one but it only paused 2x.

        Pauses below are from the same print.

        First Pause

        Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 50% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 130 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.63mm/rev, min 32% max 105% over 2072.3mm

        Second Pause:

        Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 50% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 129 agc 75, measured sensitivity 26.07mm/rev, min 28% max 107% over 178.4mm

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @wouldstain
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          @wouldstain so a window of 20% to 130% looks like it work be a good start for your settings.

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          • wouldstainundefined
            wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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            @t3p3tony Adjusted it this morning as suggested.

            Print paused at 6%:

            M591 D0
            Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 20% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 130 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.55mm/rev, min 5% max 104% over 769.7mm

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            • wouldstainundefined
              wouldstain @wouldstain
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              @T3P3Tony

              Again at 60%:

              M591 D0
              Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 20% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 130 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.59mm/rev, min -9% max 109% over 2162.1mm

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              • wouldstainundefined
                wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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                @t3p3tony
                ... and one more time tonight on a different print job:

                Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 20% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 130 agc 75, measured sensitivity 26.27mm/rev, min 96% max 135% over 6625.2mm

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                  A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                  @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                  @wouldstain please send a M591 D0 after the pause.

                  @charlesmc the sensor does take into account retraction. It looks like the pause was generated because your minimum dropped to 17% (which is below the minimum you have set). The question is why its below the minimum. It could be because there are lots of short movements and retractions in the print, it could be because your extruder is slipping slightly (maybe on very fast moves (i.e. the sensor is doing its job) or something i have not thought of. It would be helpful to have as short a bit of gcode as possible that recreates this drop to 17% or as close to 17% as possible.

                  I have the same issue, EVERY print I lunch, ALWAYS in the first layer after made the initial perimeters and after 3 lines of the bottom infill the sensor pauses the print because the minum drop to 14%..this happens ALWAYS at the first layer after have printed the perimeters...later on the print the sensor seems to work

                  This is an example GCODE:Very Fast Test Print__PETG Amazon Basic_0.2000mm.gcode

                  Let me know

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @wouldstain
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                    @wouldstain said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                    min -9% max 109% over 2162.1mm

                    can you send me the print file that causes this. also please post a pic of how you have the MFM attached to the extruder

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                      @thedragonlord thanks for the example print file

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                        A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                        @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                        @thedragonlord thanks for the example print file

                        you're welcome! I hope it could be helpful

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                          @thedragonlord could you also post a pic of how you have this mounted please.

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                            A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                            @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                            @thedragonlord could you also post a pic of how you have this mounted please.

                            uh now I'm at office so I can't do this, I'll do later now I try to explain: I've mounted the sensor BEFORE the BMG extruders, there's almost no space between the sensor housing "exit" and the BMG "entry" (of course they are attached with a PTF small tube)...any case this evening I'll post a photo if the description isn't enough

                            EDIT
                            this is a picture I've just taken with my infrared IPcam...as you can see above the BMG there's the sensor housing, is this enoguh?
                            DragonCore IPCam_20211012140053_Snapshot.jpg

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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                              @thedragonlord yes thanks

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                              • wouldstainundefined
                                wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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                                @t3p3tony MFM.jpg

                                MegaBot_Sitting_Body_Upper.gcode

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                                  A Former User @wouldstain
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                                  @wouldstain said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                  @t3p3tony MFM.jpg

                                  MegaBot_Sitting_Body_Upper.gcode

                                  Same configuration than mine

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                                    @thedragonlord @wouldstain thanks the mounting arrangements look good. I hope be be able to investigate this with the gcode you uploaded here later in the week.

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                                      A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                                      @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                      @thedragonlord @wouldstain thanks the mounting arrangements look good. I hope be be able to investigate this with the gcode you uploaded here later in the week.

                                      ok, thanks

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                                      • wouldstainundefined
                                        wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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                                        @t3p3tony this one is interresting:

                                        Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 20% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 132 agc 76, measured sensitivity 19.53mm/rev, min 100% max 100% over 12.0mm

                                        happening repeatedly on a smaller print.Drywall_Anchor.gcode

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
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                                          @wouldstain @TheDragonLord please also provide your config.g files, to help us reproduce this.

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                                          • A Former User?
                                            A Former User @dc42
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                                            @dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                            @wouldstain @TheDragonLord please also provide your config.g files, to help us reproduce this.

                                            sure! here's mine!

                                            config.g

                                            Thanks

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