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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

      @thedragonlord thanks for the example print file

      you're welcome! I hope it could be helpful

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        T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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        @thedragonlord could you also post a pic of how you have this mounted please.

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          A Former User @T3P3Tony
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          @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

          @thedragonlord could you also post a pic of how you have this mounted please.

          uh now I'm at office so I can't do this, I'll do later now I try to explain: I've mounted the sensor BEFORE the BMG extruders, there's almost no space between the sensor housing "exit" and the BMG "entry" (of course they are attached with a PTF small tube)...any case this evening I'll post a photo if the description isn't enough

          EDIT
          this is a picture I've just taken with my infrared IPcam...as you can see above the BMG there's the sensor housing, is this enoguh?
          DragonCore IPCam_20211012140053_Snapshot.jpg

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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            @thedragonlord yes thanks

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            • wouldstainundefined
              wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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              @t3p3tony MFM.jpg

              MegaBot_Sitting_Body_Upper.gcode

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                A Former User @wouldstain
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                @wouldstain said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                @t3p3tony MFM.jpg

                MegaBot_Sitting_Body_Upper.gcode

                Same configuration than mine

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                  @thedragonlord @wouldstain thanks the mounting arrangements look good. I hope be be able to investigate this with the gcode you uploaded here later in the week.

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                    A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                    @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                    @thedragonlord @wouldstain thanks the mounting arrangements look good. I hope be be able to investigate this with the gcode you uploaded here later in the week.

                    ok, thanks

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                    • wouldstainundefined
                      wouldstain @T3P3Tony
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                      @t3p3tony this one is interresting:

                      Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 20% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 132 agc 76, measured sensitivity 19.53mm/rev, min 100% max 100% over 12.0mm

                      happening repeatedly on a smaller print.Drywall_Anchor.gcode

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                      • dc42undefined
                        dc42 administrators
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                        @wouldstain @TheDragonLord please also provide your config.g files, to help us reproduce this.

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                          A Former User @dc42
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                          @dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                          @wouldstain @TheDragonLord please also provide your config.g files, to help us reproduce this.

                          sure! here's mine!

                          config.g

                          Thanks

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                            wouldstain @dc42
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                            @dc42 attached as requested.

                            config.g

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                              A Former User @dc42
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                              @dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                              @wouldstain @TheDragonLord please also provide your config.g files, to help us reproduce this.

                              If it could help I've discovered that the Magnetic sensor "doesn't like" theese two Ideamaker settings (that's the slicer I use). Unchecking both of them the false errors reduces a lot but, of course, this can't be the solution because in this way you get bad prints....

                              TinyTake17-10-2021-05-49-28.png

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                                @thedragonlord I have been working on replicating the very fast error print you sent through

                                Please can you send through the two macros that are called by your start gcode:

                                M98 P"Print_gcodes/print_petg_pressure_advance.g" ;pressure advance
                                M98 P"Print_gcodes/print_start_gcode.g" ; start gcode operations
                                

                                I get not "great" results but not nothing like as wide a variation as you see

                                measured sensitivity 24.45mm/rev, min 70% max 103% over 219.2mm
                                measured sensitivity 24.53mm/rev, min 71% max 103% over 140.2mm
                                measured sensitivity 24.64mm/rev, min 71% max 104% over 100.9mm
                                measured sensitivity 24.89mm/rev, min 72% max 104% over 61.5mm

                                as an aside, you may have already resolved this but this is an error in your config.g (its not related to this issue):

                                M350 E16:E16 I0

                                The second E should not be there

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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                                  @thedragonlord said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                  If it could help I've discovered that the Magnetic sensor "doesn't like" theese two Ideamaker settings (that's the slicer I use). Unchecking both of them the false errors reduces a lot but, of course, this can't be the solution because in this way you get bad prints....

                                  Yes, these settings probably cause a lot of short moves with retraction which may be related to the issue.

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                                    A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                                    @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                    @thedragonlord I have been working on replicating the very fast error print you sent through

                                    Please can you send through the two macros that are called by your start gcode:

                                    M98 P"Print_gcodes/print_petg_pressure_advance.g" ;pressure advance
                                    M98 P"Print_gcodes/print_start_gcode.g" ; start gcode operations
                                    

                                    I get not "great" results but not nothing like as wide a variation as you see

                                    measured sensitivity 24.45mm/rev, min 70% max 103% over 219.2mm
                                    measured sensitivity 24.53mm/rev, min 71% max 103% over 140.2mm
                                    measured sensitivity 24.64mm/rev, min 71% max 104% over 100.9mm
                                    measured sensitivity 24.89mm/rev, min 72% max 104% over 61.5mm

                                    as an aside, you may have already resolved this but this is an error in your config.g (its not related to this issue):

                                    M350 E16:E16 I0

                                    The second E should not be there

                                    Here are the g files and thanks for the M350!
                                    print_petg_pressure_advance.g.txt
                                    print_start_gcode.g.txt

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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                                      @thedragonlord thanks, sorry to be a pain but can I also have your heightmap.csv file.

                                      basically looking for anything at impacts the print process.

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                                        A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                                        @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                        @thedragonlord thanks, sorry to be a pain but can I also have your heightmap.csv file.

                                        basically looking for anything at impacts the print process.

                                        You don't need to apolgize, you are helping me so it's all ok!

                                        Here's the file:

                                        heightmap.csv

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                                          A Former User @T3P3Tony
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                                          @t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:

                                          @thedragonlord thanks, sorry to be a pain but can I also have your heightmap.csv file.

                                          basically looking for anything at impacts the print process.

                                          have you discovered something? The sensor are almost completely unuseful because they keep om pausing even without the two settings...

                                          EDIT:
                                          I was thinking about a thing....could it be that this issue depends from the pressure advance? I'm using it with 0.4 value...

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                                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                            T3P3Tony administrators @A Former User
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                                            @thedragonlord I managed to get some testing done this week and have passed the results on to @dc42. I have some more tests to do though. I made a cut down version of your print file, with as little movement as possible to see some of the effect and got 64% to 106% which for movement with no major retractions I find odd. So in summary its not forgotten, but not pinned down yet.

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