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    • the_gibsonundefined
      the_gibson @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony I have concerns about the steps/mm being off... these are the stock Nema17's from the TLM which are 1.8s.... wondering if I'm off there.

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      • the_gibsonundefined
        the_gibson @crpalmer
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        @crpalmer
        Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 4.965 after 0.453

        I am, because when I remove that I get an error about the Z probe not triggering when it plainly does. willing to address that one AFTER I print the board mounts. 🙂

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        • the_gibsonundefined
          the_gibson
          last edited by

          @crpalmer Conversely, do you have a known good config I could compare it to?

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
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            @the_gibson try that autocalibration a number of times to see what it converges to

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            • crpalmerundefined
              crpalmer @the_gibson
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              @the_gibson That's never going to print well. The fact that the deviation is so high means that effectively the software is unable to compensate for whatever the hardware is doing. My TLM has many mods that make my current configuration useless to you. The last stock configuration I had was from 2018. You can look at it here in case it helps:

              https://github.com/crpalmer/3d-printing/blob/ab49a5923f65cbaaaf9d807d9987a0eb676f144a/tlm/duet/config.g

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              • crpalmerundefined
                crpalmer @the_gibson
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                @the_gibson The steps/mm look right for stock. Can you post the output of

                M665
                M666

                after you run G32 until it seems to converge (aka, the last deviation seems to stop getting smaller when you run the calibration)? I'm curious to see what corrections it ended up making.

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                • the_gibsonundefined
                  the_gibson @crpalmer
                  last edited by

                  @crpalmer You may be right, but it worked fine with this deviation (I am assuming since the geometry didn't change) on the old setup.

                  I'll tune it further.

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                  • the_gibsonundefined
                    the_gibson @the_gibson
                    last edited by

                    @the_gibson I am however, pretty far from stock myself, just not on the motors. BMG, Mosquito, all the typical noise mods.

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                    • the_gibsonundefined
                      the_gibson @crpalmer
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                      @crpalmer Latest returns:

                      M665
                      Diagonals 397.190:397.190:397.190, delta radius 159.764, homed height 528.280, bed radius 155.0, X 2.836°, Y 1.408°, Z 0.000°
                      
                      M666
                      Endstop adjustments X-0.53 Y-0.74 Z1.27, tilt X0.00% Y0.00%
                      
                      
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                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                        T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
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                        @the_gibson what deviation are you getting from G32 when it converges (i.e. running G32 repeatedly untill the is very little difference between runs)?

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                        • the_gibsonundefined
                          the_gibson @T3P3Tony
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                          @t3p3tony High deviance no matter how many times I run it... I think I found why, and now I'm working on figuring it out. When the furthestmost forward Probe point is attempted, the sled for the X Axis is hitting the end of it's bottom travel, and bumping twice before it triggers the probe. That reading has to be throwing the whole thing off.

                          Going to work on adjusting the height of the bottom pulley, but is there a way to adjust the probing pattern? This is odd, because no mechanical changes were made, and the old smoothie board worked fine in this way.

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
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                            @the_gibson said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

                            but is there a way to adjust the probing pattern?

                            yes the probe points should be specified in your bed.g

                            G30 P0 X0 Y132.28 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P1 X121 Y69.86 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P2 X129.9 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P3 X0 Y-150 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P4 X-129.9 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P5 X-121 Y69.86 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P6 X0 Y59.15 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P7 X56.09 Y32.38 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P8 X64.95 Y-37.5 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P9 X0 Y-75 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P10 X-64.95 Y-37.5 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P11 X-56.09 Y32.38 H0 Z-99999
                            G30 P12 X0 Y0 H0 Z-99999 S6
                            

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                            • Dougal1957undefined
                              Dougal1957
                              last edited by Dougal1957

                              Try reducing the Y-150 on line 11 of your BED.G (line 4 in Tony's post) Post that will move the front probe point towards the centre try starting from -140.

                              ie make line 11 to be "G30 P3 X0 Y-140 H0 Z-99999" as you have it the front probe point is effectively 2.5 mm from the edge of your bed.

                              HTH

                              Doug

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                              • the_gibsonundefined
                                the_gibson @Dougal1957
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                                @dougal1957 said in Tevo LM recent conversion and z step issues:

                                G30 P3 X0 Y-140 H0 Z-99999

                                Testing now!

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                                • the_gibsonundefined
                                  the_gibson @the_gibson
                                  last edited by

                                  @the_gibson

                                  How about that...

                                  G32
                                  Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 1.177 after 0.026

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                                  • Dougal1957undefined
                                    Dougal1957 @the_gibson
                                    last edited by

                                    @the_gibson looking better has that solved the problem of the carriage fouling? also try running the G32 a few time see if it all settles in to lower figures (or the after deviation converges down so that each subsequent run doesn't get much different)

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                                    • the_gibsonundefined
                                      the_gibson @Dougal1957
                                      last edited by the_gibson

                                      @dougal1957 Already all over that... and yes, carriage is good now.

                                      I'll be posting back with results shortly.

                                      definitely getting better.

                                      G32
                                      Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 0.085 after 0.031
                                      
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                                      • the_gibsonundefined
                                        the_gibson @the_gibson
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                                        @the_gibson ok, looking good now.

                                        G32
                                        Calibrated 6 factors using 13 points, deviation before 0.036 after 0.035
                                        

                                        Going to try another print.

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                                        • the_gibsonundefined
                                          the_gibson @the_gibson
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                                          @the_gibson It is better, but definitely still dragging the print. first layer goes down great.

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                                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                            T3P3Tony administrators @the_gibson
                                            last edited by

                                            @the_gibson ok so delta calibration is looking good now, and you say the first layer is going down well, what do you mean by "but definitely still dragging the print"

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