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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @Chownki
      last edited by

      @chownki how is the low torque presenting itself (e.g. is the extruder skipping steps?) you ar eusing a value if 650mA for your extruder motor which is reasonable for many smaller stepper motors on extruder but its not possible without know the motor model to say if this is corrrect.

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      • Chownkiundefined
        Chownki @T3P3Tony
        last edited by

        @t3p3tony Yep its skipping steps. looks to me like its not the getting the right amount of current..
        I got a bondtech prusa i3 mk3 extruder
        STEPPER MOTOR
        Lightweight 25 mm pancake stepper with 18 N/m torque.
        Max Input Current : 0.8A
        Max chamber working temperature : 80℃

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        • o_lampeundefined
          o_lampe @Chownki
          last edited by o_lampe

          @chownki You can try 0.8A, but keep an eye on the stepper temperature.
          These pancake steppers with geared extruders are sensitive to idler pressure . When you clamp the filament too much, the stepper looses a lot of it's energy to deform the filament.
          There is also the chance you have a partially clogged nozzle.

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          • Chownkiundefined
            Chownki @o_lampe
            last edited by

            @o_lampe Have tried upping the amps but no difference - have checked the nozzle and tried replacing, can manuel push the filament through the nozzle with little to no force, when gears are not engaged.
            Im sure its not a hardware problem, but some where its not loading the config.g right on start up - when i do M98 pconfig.g all problems are gone

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            • o_lampeundefined
              o_lampe @Chownki
              last edited by

              @chownki said in Low torque extruder:

              ; Motor remapping for dual Z and axis Limits
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1

              This motor mapping should come before the other motor settings (microstepping, accel, jerk, etc.)

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @Chownki
                last edited by

                @chownki said in Low torque extruder:

                but some where its not loading the config.g right on start up - when i do M98 pconfig.g all problems are gone

                Before you do the config.g reload does the mtor move at all? I would make the change that @o_lampe mentions.

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                • engikeneerundefined
                  engikeneer @Chownki
                  last edited by

                  @chownki also, if you send the commands ( e.g. M906) with no parameters via the console in DWC, it will report back what settings are currently applied so you can see what's going on 🙂

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                  Home-built CoreXY, Duet Wifi, Chimera direct drive, 2x BMG, 300x300x300 build volume
                  i3 clone with a bunch of mods

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                  • Gixxerfastundefined
                    Gixxerfast
                    last edited by Gixxerfast

                    @chownki said in Low torque extruder:

                    M308 S1 P"e0_temp" Y"PT1000" T100000 B4725 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1 HotEnd

                    This makes no sense to me. The type is PT1000 and then you have thermistor values.

                    I guess you don't have a pt1000 and therefore should have Y"thermistor"

                    Correct?

                    Here's my config before and after switching to a pt1000:

                    ;M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4267 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin 121.temp0
                    M308 S1 P"121.temp0" Y"pt1000"                   ; configure sensor 1 as pt1000 on pin 121.temp0
                    

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                    • Chownkiundefined
                      Chownki @o_lampe
                      last edited by

                      @o_lampe Thats all i needed - Thanks!

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                      • Chownkiundefined
                        Chownki @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by

                        @t3p3tony Yep all other steppers moved fine - did what @o_lampe told and now problem is gone

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                        • Chownkiundefined
                          Chownki @Gixxerfast
                          last edited by

                          @gixxerfast Looks like i had a brain fart! got a pt1000 so just stole your config - old one worked tho

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @Chownki
                            last edited by

                            @chownki thanks for confirming that!

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