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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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      @charles-fraser The faults are probably because the bed and nozzle are not tuned. There is not much point in tuning them right now if thats the case because the setup is not how it will be in normal operation (PT1000 taped to the outside).

      When you say you got a "fault" what fault did you get reported in the console?
      I cant see anything in the photos of DWC that you upload. its better to cut and paste the text from the console into this thread (using the </> block for formatting.

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      • Charles Fraserundefined
        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
        last edited by Charles Fraser

        @t3p3tony

        So when I set noz ‘active’ to 50 it starts heating and shortly after just says fault where it used to say active:

        B6FFF25A-C0FE-4E0E-81E5-93A7AF44C15B.jpeg

        But if I just leave it it does work, the noz heats up. However when I stop it it says

        BB528B43-AE11-4A1E-922E-275748AB5BE1.jpeg

        The same is true for the bed but the bed does not heat up! I’ll try switching the polarity of the wires joining that relay!

        Also what is this new: ‘incompatible firmware’ message. I didnt see that before.

        CB587051-FEAB-4FCB-BDAB-5D0FDBAA788F.jpeg

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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          @charles-fraser lets deal with the incompatible firmware bit and then come back to the heaters.

          Please send M115 and M115 B1. copy the results from the console into here.

          Then look at the "settings" machine and General to get the DWC and DSF versions.

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          • Charles Fraserundefined
            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
            last edited by

            @t3p3tony

            27/10/2021, 15:36:37 M115 B1
            Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:58:36)

            27/10/2021, 15:36:25 M115
            FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.3 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-06-15 21:45:56

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            • Charles Fraserundefined
              Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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              @t3p3tony

              Duet Web Control 3.4.0-b5

              Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
              DSF Version: 3.4-b5
              Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.3 (2021-06-15)

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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                @charles-fraser ok so when you upgraded to 3.4b5 the mainboard did not get upgraded

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by

                  @Charles-Fraser take this file:

                  Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin

                  From here
                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

                  and upgrade using the System->Upload System Files

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                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                    Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                    last edited by

                    @t3p3tony

                    Can you please explain exactly how - step by step. Last time I had to totally reinstall raspberry Pi and everything else!

                    So if I download that file and upload it to the system folder (not the firmware folder) then send command ... what was it again?

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                      last edited by

                      @charles-fraser

                      If you get the "Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin" from
                      https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

                      And then go to the systems page and upload that file using the Upload system Files dialog box it will prompt you to install it. Say yes.

                      The issues with the Pi before were different. everything else in your system is running 3.4b5

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                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by

                        @t3p3tony

                        Okay we are beta 5 across the boards

                        28/10/2021, 10:32:41 M115 B1
                        Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:58:36)

                        28/10/2021, 10:32:23 M115
                        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta5 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-10-12 13:53:56

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                          @charles-fraser ok, now you should not be getting a incompatibility fault and the temp sensors should be showing up. When you heat the heaters you may still get a heater fault. What is reported in the console for those heater faults? if its temperature is rising too slowly then we will fix that when you have the sensors installed in the hotend/bed and we are in a position to tune the PIDs for those heaters.

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                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                            last edited by

                            @t3p3tony

                            Yup all is heating up now with just a heater fault. there is nothing in the console about those faults. We could run autotune PID for the bed because that is set up but it's on bangbang mode so I wonder if that still has PID? I guess it must right?

                            I still havn't found a 3mm x 15mm p1000 but I will find one. Perhaps we can move onto the endstops now? I'm not sure which way around the wording convention indicates I have set up my end stops (again a diagram would be helpful) but perhaps there is a way I can test that is working and then start to do motor configuration after that? My thanks again!

                            Charles

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                            • Charles Fraserundefined
                              Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                              last edited by

                              @t3p3tony

                              In fact on closer inspection, when the bed fault comes on the bed stops heating

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                                last edited by

                                @charles-fraser
                                I would expect a report something like this in the DWC console when the bed hater faults:

                                Error: Heater 0 fault: temperature rising much more slowly than the expected 1.7°C/sec
                                

                                To tune the bed the documentation is here:
                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M303

                                an example is

                                M303 H0 P1 S60
                                

                                Send this in the console - it will take a while to run and you will see the temp cycle. once its finished the send M500 in the console to save the results to config-override.g

                                We can also look at XY endstops (Z probe is out the picture for now as you said)

                                With the Axis not at their limits where the ends tops are send M119 from the console and see what is reported. Then with each of the endstops triggered in turn, send M119 while they are triggered and see the response in the console.

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                                • Charles Fraserundefined
                                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                  last edited by Charles Fraser

                                  @t3p3tony

                                  Thanks, there is no report of error in terminal re noz heat failure:

                                  I have completed PID tuning and I get (pls NB this is a mattress sized heated bed in a breezy tent!):

                                  28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Edit the M307 H0 command in config.g to match this. Omit the V parameter if the heater is not powered from VIN.
                                  28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Auto tuning heater 0 completed after 3 idle and 25 tuning cycles in 6627 seconds. This heater needs the following M307 command:
                                   M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                  28/10/2021, 15:19:44	Warning: heater behaviour was not consistent during tuning
                                  28/10/2021, 13:51:14	Auto tune starting phase 4, tuning with fan off
                                  28/10/2021, 13:37:00	Auto tune starting phase 3, heating system settling
                                  28/10/2021, 13:29:22	Auto tune starting phase 2, heating up
                                  28/10/2021, 13:29:18	M303 H0 P1 S60
                                  Auto tuning heater 0 using target temperature 60.0°C and PWM 1.00 - do not leave printer unattended
                                  
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                                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                                    Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                    last edited by

                                    @t3p3tony

                                    When I send M500 I get

                                    28/10/2021, 16:15:14	M500
                                    Warning: M500: No M501 command was executed in config.g
                                    
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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                                      last edited by

                                      @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                      M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                      For now replace the M307 H0 command in config.g with that command, except change to bang bang

                                      M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                      

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                                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                                        last edited by

                                        @charles-fraser thats fine for now. we can enable config-override later.

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                                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                          last edited by

                                          @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                          M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                          okay thanks it syas

                                          28/10/2021, 16:18:02	M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                          Warning: M307: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 134C
                                          
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                                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                            @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                            M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                            Oh wait I added that as a command in the console

                                            How do I change to bangbang?

                                            Just add this?

                                            M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                            
                                            
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