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    • Charles Fraserundefined
      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony

      Duet Web Control 3.4.0-b5

      Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
      DSF Version: 3.4-b5
      Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.3 (2021-06-15)

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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        @charles-fraser ok so when you upgraded to 3.4b5 the mainboard did not get upgraded

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        • T3P3Tonyundefined
          T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
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          @Charles-Fraser take this file:

          Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin

          From here
          https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

          and upgrade using the System->Upload System Files

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          • Charles Fraserundefined
            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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            @t3p3tony

            Can you please explain exactly how - step by step. Last time I had to totally reinstall raspberry Pi and everything else!

            So if I download that file and upload it to the system folder (not the firmware folder) then send command ... what was it again?

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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              @charles-fraser

              If you get the "Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin" from
              https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

              And then go to the systems page and upload that file using the Upload system Files dialog box it will prompt you to install it. Say yes.

              The issues with the Pi before were different. everything else in your system is running 3.4b5

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              • Charles Fraserundefined
                Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                Okay we are beta 5 across the boards

                28/10/2021, 10:32:41 M115 B1
                Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:58:36)

                28/10/2021, 10:32:23 M115
                FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta5 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-10-12 13:53:56

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                  @charles-fraser ok, now you should not be getting a incompatibility fault and the temp sensors should be showing up. When you heat the heaters you may still get a heater fault. What is reported in the console for those heater faults? if its temperature is rising too slowly then we will fix that when you have the sensors installed in the hotend/bed and we are in a position to tune the PIDs for those heaters.

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                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                    Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                    Yup all is heating up now with just a heater fault. there is nothing in the console about those faults. We could run autotune PID for the bed because that is set up but it's on bangbang mode so I wonder if that still has PID? I guess it must right?

                    I still havn't found a 3mm x 15mm p1000 but I will find one. Perhaps we can move onto the endstops now? I'm not sure which way around the wording convention indicates I have set up my end stops (again a diagram would be helpful) but perhaps there is a way I can test that is working and then start to do motor configuration after that? My thanks again!

                    Charles

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                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                      @t3p3tony

                      In fact on closer inspection, when the bed fault comes on the bed stops heating

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                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                        I would expect a report something like this in the DWC console when the bed hater faults:

                        Error: Heater 0 fault: temperature rising much more slowly than the expected 1.7°C/sec
                        

                        To tune the bed the documentation is here:
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M303

                        an example is

                        M303 H0 P1 S60
                        

                        Send this in the console - it will take a while to run and you will see the temp cycle. once its finished the send M500 in the console to save the results to config-override.g

                        We can also look at XY endstops (Z probe is out the picture for now as you said)

                        With the Axis not at their limits where the ends tops are send M119 from the console and see what is reported. Then with each of the endstops triggered in turn, send M119 while they are triggered and see the response in the console.

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                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                          @t3p3tony

                          Thanks, there is no report of error in terminal re noz heat failure:

                          I have completed PID tuning and I get (pls NB this is a mattress sized heated bed in a breezy tent!):

                          28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Edit the M307 H0 command in config.g to match this. Omit the V parameter if the heater is not powered from VIN.
                          28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Auto tuning heater 0 completed after 3 idle and 25 tuning cycles in 6627 seconds. This heater needs the following M307 command:
                           M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                          28/10/2021, 15:19:44	Warning: heater behaviour was not consistent during tuning
                          28/10/2021, 13:51:14	Auto tune starting phase 4, tuning with fan off
                          28/10/2021, 13:37:00	Auto tune starting phase 3, heating system settling
                          28/10/2021, 13:29:22	Auto tune starting phase 2, heating up
                          28/10/2021, 13:29:18	M303 H0 P1 S60
                          Auto tuning heater 0 using target temperature 60.0°C and PWM 1.00 - do not leave printer unattended
                          
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                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                            @t3p3tony

                            When I send M500 I get

                            28/10/2021, 16:15:14	M500
                            Warning: M500: No M501 command was executed in config.g
                            
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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                              @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                              M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                              For now replace the M307 H0 command in config.g with that command, except change to bang bang

                              M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                              

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                @charles-fraser thats fine for now. we can enable config-override later.

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                                • Charles Fraserundefined
                                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                  @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                  M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                  okay thanks it syas

                                  28/10/2021, 16:18:02	M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                  Warning: M307: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 134C
                                  
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                                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                                    Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                    @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                    M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                    Oh wait I added that as a command in the console

                                    How do I change to bangbang?

                                    Just add this?

                                    M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                    
                                    
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                                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                                      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                      @t3p3tony

                                      Like this?)

                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"1.temp0" Y"PT1000"
                                      M950 H0 C"1.out0" T0
                                      M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0                   ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0                                                         ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S80                                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
                                      M308 S1 P"1.temp1" Y"PT1000"                                    ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                      M950 H1 C"1.out1" T1                                              ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                                ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                      M143 H1 S300                                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                                       
                                      
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                                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                        @charles-fraser yes that looks good.

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                                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                          @t3p3tony

                                          Okay so I wired a switch up to the Z axis that should close if the bed comes up so far it pushes against the noz and changed the firmware and wiring so hopefully that's all good:

                                          ; Endstops
                                          M574 X1 S1 P"io1.in"                                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin io1.in
                                          M574 Y1 S1 P"io2.in"                                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin io2.in
                                          M574 Z1 S1 P"io0.in"                                                       ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                          

                                          So when I run M119:

                                          28/10/2021, 19:30:54	M119
                                          Endstops - X: not stopped, Y: not stopped, Z: not stopped, Z probe: at min stop
                                          
                                          

                                          Then I tape down the end-stops one by one and run M119 in order to make sure it's all wired up right. The x endstop (at the left, homing end of the gantry corresponding to left right movement of the gantry when viewed from in-front. Y endstop at the front end of the machine corresponding to Y home & forward and backwards. Z axis on a spring behind the extruder that is closed if the extruder is pushed up by the bed.

                                          28/10/2021, 19:34:30	M119
                                          Endstops - X: at min stop, Y: at min stop, Z: at min stop, Z probe: at min stop
                                          
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                                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                            @t3p3tony

                                            I guess next is motors 🙂

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