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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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      @charles-fraser lets deal with the incompatible firmware bit and then come back to the heaters.

      Please send M115 and M115 B1. copy the results from the console into here.

      Then look at the "settings" machine and General to get the DWC and DSF versions.

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      • Charles Fraserundefined
        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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        @t3p3tony

        27/10/2021, 15:36:37 M115 B1
        Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:58:36)

        27/10/2021, 15:36:25 M115
        FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.3 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-06-15 21:45:56

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        • Charles Fraserundefined
          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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          @t3p3tony

          Duet Web Control 3.4.0-b5

          Board: Duet 3 MB6HC (MB6HC)
          DSF Version: 3.4-b5
          Firmware: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC 3.3 (2021-06-15)

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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            @charles-fraser ok so when you upgraded to 3.4b5 the mainboard did not get upgraded

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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @T3P3Tony
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              @Charles-Fraser take this file:

              Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin

              From here
              https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

              and upgrade using the System->Upload System Files

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              • Charles Fraserundefined
                Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                last edited by

                @t3p3tony

                Can you please explain exactly how - step by step. Last time I had to totally reinstall raspberry Pi and everything else!

                So if I download that file and upload it to the system folder (not the firmware folder) then send command ... what was it again?

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                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                  T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                  last edited by

                  @charles-fraser

                  If you get the "Duet3Firmware_MB6HC.bin" from
                  https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.4.0beta5

                  And then go to the systems page and upload that file using the Upload system Files dialog box it will prompt you to install it. Say yes.

                  The issues with the Pi before were different. everything else in your system is running 3.4b5

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                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                    Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                    last edited by

                    @t3p3tony

                    Okay we are beta 5 across the boards

                    28/10/2021, 10:32:41 M115 B1
                    Duet EXP3HC firmware version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:58:36)

                    28/10/2021, 10:32:23 M115
                    FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.4.0beta5 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-10-12 13:53:56

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                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                      @charles-fraser ok, now you should not be getting a incompatibility fault and the temp sensors should be showing up. When you heat the heaters you may still get a heater fault. What is reported in the console for those heater faults? if its temperature is rising too slowly then we will fix that when you have the sensors installed in the hotend/bed and we are in a position to tune the PIDs for those heaters.

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                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by

                        @t3p3tony

                        Yup all is heating up now with just a heater fault. there is nothing in the console about those faults. We could run autotune PID for the bed because that is set up but it's on bangbang mode so I wonder if that still has PID? I guess it must right?

                        I still havn't found a 3mm x 15mm p1000 but I will find one. Perhaps we can move onto the endstops now? I'm not sure which way around the wording convention indicates I have set up my end stops (again a diagram would be helpful) but perhaps there is a way I can test that is working and then start to do motor configuration after that? My thanks again!

                        Charles

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                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by

                          @t3p3tony

                          In fact on closer inspection, when the bed fault comes on the bed stops heating

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                            last edited by

                            @charles-fraser
                            I would expect a report something like this in the DWC console when the bed hater faults:

                            Error: Heater 0 fault: temperature rising much more slowly than the expected 1.7°C/sec
                            

                            To tune the bed the documentation is here:
                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/M303

                            an example is

                            M303 H0 P1 S60
                            

                            Send this in the console - it will take a while to run and you will see the temp cycle. once its finished the send M500 in the console to save the results to config-override.g

                            We can also look at XY endstops (Z probe is out the picture for now as you said)

                            With the Axis not at their limits where the ends tops are send M119 from the console and see what is reported. Then with each of the endstops triggered in turn, send M119 while they are triggered and see the response in the console.

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                            • Charles Fraserundefined
                              Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                              last edited by Charles Fraser

                              @t3p3tony

                              Thanks, there is no report of error in terminal re noz heat failure:

                              I have completed PID tuning and I get (pls NB this is a mattress sized heated bed in a breezy tent!):

                              28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Edit the M307 H0 command in config.g to match this. Omit the V parameter if the heater is not powered from VIN.
                              28/10/2021, 15:19:45	Auto tuning heater 0 completed after 3 idle and 25 tuning cycles in 6627 seconds. This heater needs the following M307 command:
                               M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                              28/10/2021, 15:19:44	Warning: heater behaviour was not consistent during tuning
                              28/10/2021, 13:51:14	Auto tune starting phase 4, tuning with fan off
                              28/10/2021, 13:37:00	Auto tune starting phase 3, heating system settling
                              28/10/2021, 13:29:22	Auto tune starting phase 2, heating up
                              28/10/2021, 13:29:18	M303 H0 P1 S60
                              Auto tuning heater 0 using target temperature 60.0°C and PWM 1.00 - do not leave printer unattended
                              
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                              • Charles Fraserundefined
                                Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                @t3p3tony

                                When I send M500 I get

                                28/10/2021, 16:15:14	M500
                                Warning: M500: No M501 command was executed in config.g
                                
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                                • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                  T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                  @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                  M307 H0 B0 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                  For now replace the M307 H0 command in config.g with that command, except change to bang bang

                                  M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                  

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                                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                    T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                    @charles-fraser thats fine for now. we can enable config-override later.

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                                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                                      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                      @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                      M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                      okay thanks it syas

                                      28/10/2021, 16:18:02	M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                      Warning: M307: Heater 0 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 134C
                                      
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                                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                        @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                        M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0

                                        Oh wait I added that as a command in the console

                                        How do I change to bangbang?

                                        Just add this?

                                        M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0
                                        
                                        
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                                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                          last edited by

                                          @t3p3tony

                                          Like this?)

                                          ; Heaters
                                          M308 S0 P"1.temp0" Y"PT1000"
                                          M950 H0 C"1.out0" T0
                                          M307 H0 B1 R0.138 C790.6 D13.87 S1.00 V24.0                   ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                          M140 H0                                                         ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                          M143 H0 S80                                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 80C
                                          M308 S1 P"1.temp1" Y"PT1000"                                    ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp0
                                          M950 H1 C"1.out1" T1                                              ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
                                          M307 H1 B0 S1.00                                                ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                                          M143 H1 S300                                                    ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                                           
                                          
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                                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                            T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                            @charles-fraser yes that looks good.

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