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    • itslikebooundefined
      itslikeboo
      last edited by itslikeboo

      Hey everyone. Finally found some time to iterate on my delta. Hope you like it! The effector and tool use a kinematic coupling and there are magnets that apply the coupling force. I was hoping to avoid magnets but they've been solid for me. Before this, I had just a static coupling and a manual toolchanger and I'm not really sure I'd go back to any other way.

      Kudos to the Jubilee tool changer project. I fashioned its cable drive system to the effector to offload the weight. I wanted to make this as simple, cheap, and as easy to upgrade from a normal delta as possible.

      Here's a link to it setting a tool down and picking it back up:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrbC58hZFl4

      Edit:
      Added a second tool:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUtPNZ3ag4

      Edit:
      Printing:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBPeQnealA

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @itslikeboo
        last edited by

        @itslikeboo

        I like it. Seems to be very well done.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • itslikebooundefined
          itslikeboo @fcwilt
          last edited by

          @fcwilt
          Thanks! Things just kept working out!

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @itslikeboo
            last edited by

            @itslikeboo said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

            @fcwilt
            Thanks! Things just kept working out!

            What are you using to rotate the magnets into position?

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • itslikebooundefined
              itslikeboo @fcwilt
              last edited by

              @fcwilt
              Before Jubilee implemented a more robust locking mechanism, it used a more simple cable driven system, you can see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibJpjYAcjaM

              On the delta, there's a pulley mounted to a motor that sits on the frame. Like the above, spectra line is fed from the motor through the spring guides, but through the effector, to the inner torus which can rotate. When the motor turns, it rotates the torus.

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @itslikeboo
                last edited by fcwilt

                @itslikeboo

                You mean the silvery spring looking things going off screen?

                Could you post a picture showing the other end?

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • itslikebooundefined
                  itslikeboo @fcwilt
                  last edited by itslikeboo

                  @fcwilt
                  Right.
                  Let me know if this clears anything up.
                  IMG_3413.jpg

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @itslikeboo
                    last edited by

                    @itslikeboo

                    Thanks.

                    All is clear.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • o_lampeundefined
                      o_lampe @itslikeboo
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                      @itslikeboo
                      Congrats, that looks clean and simple!
                      One thing I don't grasp is the hotend fan: It would sit on the outer effector, right?
                      When you park the tool, will there be another fan to take over cooling the heatsink?

                      @cosmowave
                      Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

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                      • itslikebooundefined
                        itslikeboo @o_lampe
                        last edited by

                        @o_lampe
                        Thanks! The Mosquito comes with a small hotend fan that's attached to the heatsink. So it follows the tool when it's picked up and parked. You can make it out in the video. For tools that need a fan that can't fit through the inner diameter of the effector's torus, there would need to be another solution.

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                        • cosmowaveundefined
                          cosmowave @o_lampe
                          last edited by

                          @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                          Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

                          You have to try it!

                          Mankati FSXT+, DeltaTowerV2, E3D MS/TC

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                          • itslikebooundefined
                            itslikeboo @o_lampe
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                            @o_lampe
                            What's this vacuum pump?

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                            • o_lampeundefined
                              o_lampe @itslikeboo
                              last edited by

                              @itslikeboo
                              It's similar to this
                              Cosmowave borrowed me his pump to test how good it would suck on our common steelballs on Delta effectors. I wanted to get rid of the magnets (Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy)
                              It's yet untested, but if it'd work, your locking mechanism would be much easier.

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                              • itslikebooundefined
                                itslikeboo @o_lampe
                                last edited by

                                @o_lampe
                                Very cool! I went towards traditional joints for that very reason. Although, I will admit there might be a bit of play in mine. Keep me posted if you go down that route!

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @o_lampe
                                  last edited by

                                  @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                                  Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy

                                  Do they add enough weight to make a significant difference in performance?

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • o_lampeundefined
                                    o_lampe @fcwilt
                                    last edited by o_lampe

                                    @fcwilt
                                    Six magnets with steelballs weight 85gr. That's almost the same as my direct drive extruder. For Bowden extruders, it's even more significant.
                                    With input shaping we can iron out a lot of ringing, so it's less of a problem I guess.

                                    [OT]
                                    In 2018 I started experimenting with Delrin ball effectors and rubber bands.
                                    Maybe, if I replace/support the rubber band with vacuum, it'll hold stronger. I'd go for six Delrin balls now.

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                                    • itslikebooundefined
                                      itslikeboo
                                      last edited by

                                      Added a second tool:
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUtPNZ3ag4

                                      This tool gets knocked around a bit during changes even though it's a mirror of the first tool and I'm not positive why. But the tool seems like it seats just as firmly as the first. Still need to mess around.

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                                      • itslikebooundefined
                                        itslikeboo
                                        last edited by

                                        I should mention, I do plan on uploading all the files to thingiverse. My Fusion 360 skills are abysmal and I need to do some cleanup before I put them up.

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                                        • itslikebooundefined
                                          itslikeboo @itslikeboo
                                          last edited by

                                          Work has been busy but I've finally got around to fooling around with dual color printing. Print quality is superb. Some of the changes themselves are a little rough but consistent enough for the most part!

                                          Here's a quick video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBPeQnealA

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                                          • breedundefined
                                            breed @itslikeboo
                                            last edited by

                                            @itslikeboo I love this project. Hope to do something similar on one of my anycubic predators except with two smart effectors. Keep up the good work.

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