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    • itslikebooundefined
      itslikeboo @fcwilt
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      @fcwilt
      Thanks! Things just kept working out!

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @itslikeboo
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        @itslikeboo said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

        @fcwilt
        Thanks! Things just kept working out!

        What are you using to rotate the magnets into position?

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • itslikebooundefined
          itslikeboo @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt
          Before Jubilee implemented a more robust locking mechanism, it used a more simple cable driven system, you can see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibJpjYAcjaM

          On the delta, there's a pulley mounted to a motor that sits on the frame. Like the above, spectra line is fed from the motor through the spring guides, but through the effector, to the inner torus which can rotate. When the motor turns, it rotates the torus.

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @itslikeboo
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            @itslikeboo

            You mean the silvery spring looking things going off screen?

            Could you post a picture showing the other end?

            Frederick

            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • itslikebooundefined
              itslikeboo @fcwilt
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              @fcwilt
              Right.
              Let me know if this clears anything up.
              IMG_3413.jpg

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @itslikeboo
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                @itslikeboo

                Thanks.

                All is clear.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • o_lampeundefined
                  o_lampe @itslikeboo
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                  @itslikeboo
                  Congrats, that looks clean and simple!
                  One thing I don't grasp is the hotend fan: It would sit on the outer effector, right?
                  When you park the tool, will there be another fan to take over cooling the heatsink?

                  @cosmowave
                  Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

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                  • itslikebooundefined
                    itslikeboo @o_lampe
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                    @o_lampe
                    Thanks! The Mosquito comes with a small hotend fan that's attached to the heatsink. So it follows the tool when it's picked up and parked. You can make it out in the video. For tools that need a fan that can't fit through the inner diameter of the effector's torus, there would need to be another solution.

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                    • cosmowaveundefined
                      cosmowave @o_lampe
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                      @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                      Hi, do you think I could use your vacuum pump to replace the magnets? The weight of the tool will hold it down anyway, so the pump wouldn't fight against gravity. (Which would be the case in my design)

                      You have to try it!

                      Mankati FSXT+, DeltaTowerV2, E3D MS/TC

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                      • itslikebooundefined
                        itslikeboo @o_lampe
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                        @o_lampe
                        What's this vacuum pump?

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                        • o_lampeundefined
                          o_lampe @itslikeboo
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                          @itslikeboo
                          It's similar to this
                          Cosmowave borrowed me his pump to test how good it would suck on our common steelballs on Delta effectors. I wanted to get rid of the magnets (Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy)
                          It's yet untested, but if it'd work, your locking mechanism would be much easier.

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                          • itslikebooundefined
                            itslikeboo @o_lampe
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                            @o_lampe
                            Very cool! I went towards traditional joints for that very reason. Although, I will admit there might be a bit of play in mine. Keep me posted if you go down that route!

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @o_lampe
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                              @o_lampe said in My Delta Toolchanger - initial iteration:

                              Haydn Huntleys Mag-arms are very good, but heavy

                              Do they add enough weight to make a significant difference in performance?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • o_lampeundefined
                                o_lampe @fcwilt
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                                @fcwilt
                                Six magnets with steelballs weight 85gr. That's almost the same as my direct drive extruder. For Bowden extruders, it's even more significant.
                                With input shaping we can iron out a lot of ringing, so it's less of a problem I guess.

                                [OT]
                                In 2018 I started experimenting with Delrin ball effectors and rubber bands.
                                Maybe, if I replace/support the rubber band with vacuum, it'll hold stronger. I'd go for six Delrin balls now.

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                                • itslikebooundefined
                                  itslikeboo
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                                  Added a second tool:
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUtPNZ3ag4

                                  This tool gets knocked around a bit during changes even though it's a mirror of the first tool and I'm not positive why. But the tool seems like it seats just as firmly as the first. Still need to mess around.

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                                  • itslikebooundefined
                                    itslikeboo
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                                    I should mention, I do plan on uploading all the files to thingiverse. My Fusion 360 skills are abysmal and I need to do some cleanup before I put them up.

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                                    • itslikebooundefined
                                      itslikeboo @itslikeboo
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                                      Work has been busy but I've finally got around to fooling around with dual color printing. Print quality is superb. Some of the changes themselves are a little rough but consistent enough for the most part!

                                      Here's a quick video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBPeQnealA

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                                      • breedundefined
                                        breed @itslikeboo
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                                        @itslikeboo I love this project. Hope to do something similar on one of my anycubic predators except with two smart effectors. Keep up the good work.

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                                        • bbergerundefined
                                          bberger @breed
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                                          @breed same here

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                                          • itslikebooundefined
                                            itslikeboo @breed
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                                            @breed
                                            Thanks!
                                            I spent a bit of time trying to figure out how to create a tool changer with the smart effector. Ultimately, couldn't really get anywhere. But I'd love to see it.

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