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    • kotuoundefined
      kotuo @Phaedrux
      last edited by kotuo

      @phaedrux Thank you for your reply.

      @phaedrux said in The height map is not created correctly:

      Do you actually use bed.g? Or call it with G32 at any point?

      I ran G32 and found that P1 and P4 were not probed as the probes were sticking out of the bed.

      @phaedrux said in The height map is not created correctly:

      homeall.gファイルとhomez.gファイルを投稿できますか?

      This is Homeall

      ; homeall.g
      ; called to home all axes
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.5 on Sun Nov 14 2021 09:23:55 GMT+0900 (日本標準時)
      G91                     ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
      G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
      G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
      G1 H1 Z-305 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
      G90                     ; absolute positioning
      G92 Z0                  ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
      
      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
      ;G91                    ; relative positioning
      ;G1 Z5 F100             ; lift Z relative to current position
      ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
      
      
      
      

      This is Homez

      ; homez.g
      ; called to home the Z axis
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.5 on Sun Nov 14 2021 09:23:56 GMT+0900 (日本標準時)
      G91 ; relative mode
      G1 S2 Z5 F200 ; raise head 4mm to ensure it is above the Z probe trigger height
      G90 ; back to absolute mode
      G1 X150 Y150 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
      G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
      
      ;G91               ; relative positioning
      ;G1 H2 Z5 F6000    ; lift Z relative to current position
      ;G1 H1 Z-305 F1800 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
      ;G92 Z0            ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
      
      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
      ;G91              ; relative positioning
      ;G1 Z5 F100       ; lift Z relative to current position
      ;G90              ; absolute positioning
      

      @phaedrux said in The height map is not created correctly:

      When the heightmap has such a large offset it's usually because the mesh has been created without the z axis being homed with the probe first.

      Now I understand why the height map was made so low.

      @phaedrux said in The height map is not created correctly:

      Your homing files should home the Z axis with the probe using G30 at the center of the bed to set the Z0 location. Then create a fresh height map.

      Does this mean that I need to do a paper filler test in the centre of the bet and then run 「G92 Z0」 and then 「G29」?

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      • droftartsundefined
        droftarts administrators @kotuo
        last edited by

        @kotuo said in The height map is not created correctly:

        Does this mean that I need to do a paper filler test in the centre of the bet and then run 「G92 Z0」 and then 「G29」?

        You shouldn't need to set the Z axis 0 manually, as you have a probe to do that, and it looks like when you home Z properly, it works okay. I think the problem is that your homeall.g file is incorrect.

        At the moment, your homez.g homes the Z axis in the middle of the bed, with:

        G1 X150 Y150 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
        G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
        

        but your homeall.g just sets Z=0 at whatever height the Z is at after homing X and Y:

        G92 Z0                  ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
        

        Replace the G92 line in homeall.g with the two lines from homez.g, then a home all should home Z in the middle of the bed. If the nozzle doesn't touch the bed when you move Z to 0, check your probe offset: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

        Your bed mesh looks better, but now shows that the bed is twisted, or that the bed rails are not level (one side rises compared to the other) or that the nozzle carriage twists around the Y axis as it moves from one side to the other (if your bed still moves in X). If your bed has corner adjusters, you can use the manual bed levelling assistant to tell you how far to adjust the bed: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Using_the_manual_bed_levelling_assistant

        That should get you closer to a flat bed. It's always best to get the bed as mechanically level as possible, so the bed mesh compensation isn't having to work too hard.

        Ian

        Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        • kotuoundefined
          kotuo
          last edited by

          @droftarts Sorry for the delay in replying.
          Thank you for your reply.
          I have reworked the parts you pointed out.

          I rewrote homeall.g and it looks like this.

          ; homeall.g
          ; called to home all axes
          ;
          ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.5 on Sun Nov 14 2021 09:23:55 GMT+0900 (日本標準時)
          G91                     ; relative positioning
          G1 H2 Z5 F6000          ; lift Z relative to current position
          G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F1800 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
          G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
          G1 H1 X-305 Y-305 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
          G1 H1 Z-305 F360        ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
          G90                     ; absolute positioning
          G1 X150 Y150 Z5 F2000 ; put head over the centre of the bed, or wherever you want to probe
          G30 ; lower head, stop when probe triggered and set Z to trigger height
          
          
          ;G92 Z0                  ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
          
          ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
          ;G91                    ; relative positioning
          ;G1 Z5 F100             ; lift Z relative to current position
          ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
          

          As a result, when HomeAll is done, after the X and Y axis hit the limit switch, the carriage moves to the centre and is now Z-probed.

          The next question is about the probe offset.
          This is a CAD simulation of my probe.
          スクリーンショット 2021-12-04 220007.png
          スクリーンショット 2021-12-02 225426.png
          You will probably need to enter X+20 or X-20 as the offset for G31.
          I have checked the offset and if I move the probe to where the hot end nozzle is marked, then at +20mm the probe will be in the same position as the nozzle.
          I set it to X20 on the G31.
          However, I don't think that the Y axis offset is moving from the nozzle to either side. In this case, is it correct to set the Y offset to 0?

          The next question is about Using the Manual Bed Levelling Assistant.
          The prerequisite for Using the Manual Bed Levelling Assistant is
          {You need to use the {M671 command to define the X and Y coordinates of the adjusting screw. The M671 command must be specified after the M667 or M669 command in config.g}.
          but the adjustment screw on my printer bed is on the inside of the bed.
          Is this something I should be concerned about?
          Also, there is no M669 in my Config.g. What should I do in this case?

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by Phaedrux

            Is the probe in front or behind the nozzle? To the left or the right?

            +X should be to the right, -X to the left, -Y to the front, +Y behind.

            @kotuo said in The height map is not created correctly:

            but the adjustment screw on my printer bed is on the inside of the bed.

            That's fine. Just provide the absolute positions of the screws.

            @kotuo said in The height map is not created correctly:

            Also, there is no M669 in my Config.g. What should I do in this case?

            That's fine. Do nothing.

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            • droftartsundefined
              droftarts administrators
              last edited by

              @phaedrux said in The height map is not created correctly:

              Is the probe in front or behind the nozzle? To the left or the right?

              +X should be to the right, -X to the left, -Y to the front, +Y behind.

              Except @kotuo has the bed moving in X, and the extruder carriage moving in Y, so the sensor behind the nozzle is at, I think, X-20 Y0 when the nozzle is at the origin.

              @kotuo said in The height map is not created correctly:

              Also, there is no M669 in my Config.g. What should I do in this case?

              That's fine. Do nothing.

              To elaborate on this, M669 sets the printer kinematics. The default is cartesian, which your machine is, so you don’t need M669 explicitly.

              Ian

              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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              • droftartsundefined
                droftarts administrators @kotuo
                last edited by droftarts

                @kotuo does this picture show the nozzle at X0 Y0?
                alt text
                If the bed is moving in X, and the extruder carriage in Y, this should be the maximum X point, not minimum.

                Ian

                Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                • kotuoundefined
                  kotuo @droftarts
                  last edited by

                  @droftarts Thank you for your reply.
                  This picture is taken from the back of the printer.
                  Y is about -20 places from the maximum
                  X is about two thirds of the way from the minimum.
                  In the printer settings, this is the maximum position.
                  In order to improve the serviceability of the printer, the bed can be moved up to 500mm

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                  • kotuoundefined
                    kotuo @droftarts
                    last edited by

                    @droftarts  Thank you for your reply.

                    @droftarts said in The height map is not created correctly:

                    Is the probe in front or behind the nozzle? To the left or the right?

                    The nozzle is in front of the printer. And the probe is set at 20mm in front from the nozzle.

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                    • kotuoundefined
                      kotuo @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux  Thank you for your reply.
                      I now understand the relationship between X and Y. Thank you.

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                      • kotuoundefined
                        kotuo
                        last edited by

                        @droftarts @phaedrux Thank you for your kind remarks to my ignorance.
                        I finished setting up the M671 today. The result on Bed.g looks like this.
                        Bed image:スクリーンショット 2021-12-07 192441.png
                        G32Results:G32
                        Manual corrections required: 0.00 turn up (0.00mm) 0.19 turn down (0.09mm) 0.13 turn down (0.07mm) 0.19 turn down (0.10mm)
                        Thank you for telling us.
                        I don't think I could have done so much with my knowledge.

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