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How to configure Duet with E3D thermistor?

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    zapta
    last edited by zapta 15 Dec 2021, 02:25

    I am revisiting the nozzle temperature configuration of my printer, because I suspect that the temperature reading is significantly off.

    The Duet documentation provide these thermistor info:

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    https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_thermistors_or_PT1000_temperature_sensors

    However, looking at the Semitec datasheet it has these two 100k thermistors which have different B values than the one above:

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    https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/362/P18_NT_Thermistor-1535133.pdf

    Am I missing something? What are the correct B and C values for an E3D thermistor and where can I find a datasheet with temperature/resistance table to calibrate the Duet?

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      JoergS5 @zapta
      last edited by 15 Dec 2021, 05:56

      @zapta according to https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/Semitec/104GT-2?qs=wgO0AD0o1vvQ2Rm%2FPgvFdg%3D%3D the lifecycle for 104GT-4 ends and the NT-4 series is a possible replacement. I read you other posts and will go with PT1000 now also.

      To calculate the parameters, there is https://www.thinksrs.com/downloads/programs/therm calc/ntccalibrator/ntccalculator.html which was a hint from David dc42 https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6793/ntc-3950-cartridge-ht-ntc100k-how-to-config/11

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        rjenkinsgb
        last edited by 15 Dec 2021, 06:47

        This is the data for the original Semitec 104GT-2; slightly different again.

        The platinum RTDs are the best choice for high precision..

        https://static.rapidonline.com/pdf/61-0452.pdf

        Robert J.

        Printers: Overlord pro, Kossel XL+ with Duet 6HC and "Frankentron", TronXY X5SA Pro converted to E3D toolchange with Duet 6HC and 1LC toolboards.

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          o_lampe @zapta
          last edited by 15 Dec 2021, 07:45

          @zapta
          The B-values we sometimes see are more real life data, adapted to the higher temps we need for extruders. At least, that's my interpretation.

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            zapta @o_lampe
            last edited by zapta 15 Dec 2021, 16:12

            I performed temp tests using known resistors and the Duet itself seems to give very close results for one of the two Semitec 100K thermistor models so I presume this is the one that E3D sells. This validates the Duet's recommended configuration for the E3D thermistor. It says nothing though about the specific thermistor I am using.

            For example, 210.4 ohms gave 239.9C where the expected value is 240C.

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