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    • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
      jumpedwithbothfeet @Dima.
      last edited by

      @dima it would be helpful to post your config.g, what driver is the one at fault?

      6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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      • Dima.undefined
        Dima. @jumpedwithbothfeet
        last edited by

        @jumpedwithbothfeet

        I wanted to ask if it could be in fact a firmware issue, and hopefully not anything physical.


        this is my config, I'm aware my fans are off.


        ; Configuration file for Duet 3 (firmware version 3)
        ; executed by the firmware on start-up
        ;
        ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.3.5 on Sat Nov 20 2021 23:14:00 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

        ; General preferences
        G90 ; send absolute coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"My Printer" ; set printer name

        ; Network
        M552 P0.0.0.0 S1 ; enable network and acquire dynamic address via DHCP
        M586 P0 S1 ; enable HTTP
        M586 P1 S0 ; disable FTP
        M586 P2 S0 ; disable Telnet

        ; Drives
        M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
        M569 P0.1 S0 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards (z)
        M569 P0.3 S0 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards (z)
        M569 P0.4 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
        M569 P0.5 S1 ; physical drive 0.5 goes forwards
        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2:0.3 E0.4:0.5 ; set drive mapping
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I0 ; configure microstepping without interpolation
        M92 X100.00 Y105.00 Z1600.00 E110.00:110.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E80.00:80.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

        ; Axis Limits
        M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 X205 Y250 Z250 S0 ; set axis maxima

        ; Endstops
        M574 X1 S1 P"!io0.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on X via pin !io0.in
        M574 Y0 S1 P"!io1.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Y via pin !io1.in
        M574 Z1 S1 P"!io2.in" ; configure switch-type (e.g. microswitch) endstop for low end on Z via pin !io2.in

        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T3000 ; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        M557 X15:205 Y15:195 S20 ; define mesh grid

        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
        M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create bed heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
        M307 H1 B1 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
        M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
        M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
        M950 H1 C"out2" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on out2 and map it to sensor 1
        M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
        M308 S2 P"temp2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 2 as thermistor on pin temp2
        M950 H2 C"out3" T2 ; create nozzle heater output on out3 and map it to sensor 2
        M307 H2 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M143 H2 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 2 to 280C

        ; Fans
        ; M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
        ; M106 P0 C"AlwaysOn0" S0 H-1 ; set fan 0 name and value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        ; M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
        ; M106 P1 S0 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"noz1" D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
        M563 P1 S"noz2" D1 H2 F0 ; define tool 1
        G10 P1 X5 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 1 axis offsets
        G10 P1 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined

        ; Miscellaneous
        M911 S10 R11 P"M913 X0 Y0 G91 M83 G1 Z3 E-5 F1000" ; set voltage thresholds and actions to run on power loss

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        • Dima.undefined
          Dima. @Dima.
          last edited by

          @dima
          The driver is 0.5
          And when I run m122 I get
          'Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 48153, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available'

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          • jumpedwithbothfeetundefined
            jumpedwithbothfeet @Dima.
            last edited by

            @dima you need to run through and change each of these -

            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16 I0 ; configure microstepping without interpolation
            M92 X100.00 Y105.00 Z1600.00 E110.00:110.00 ; set steps per mm
            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E80.00:80.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00:1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00:250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800:800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            
            M566 Gcode reference
            RepRapFirmware does not support individual motor settings where an axis has multiple motors connected to different stepper drivers. The first parameter specified will be used for all motors on the axis. You should use identical motors on any axis that has more than one motor to avoid unexpected behaviour.
            
            Example: If you have two motors on your Z axis, physically connected to Z and E0 stepper drivers, configured with M584 Z2:3, set M566 Z50, not M566 Z50:50
            

            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode use this to check each M code and change them as required 🙂

            6HC Voron Trident based, 6XD CNC, Mini 5 polar printer

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              Can you send M122 and M98 P"config.g" and post the result?

              How many extruders do you have? 1 or 2?

              What axis are you trying to use drive 0.5 as? Right now it's set as extruder 2. How are you trying to move the motor?

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              • Dima.undefined
                Dima. @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @phaedrux
                when I run m122 I get
                Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 48153, writes 0 timeouts 0, SG min/max not available
                I have 2 extruders, 0.5 is the second extruder.
                Sidenote - I cannot see a second extrusion control when I go the dashboard tab of dwc.
                If that is at all helpful

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                • Dima.undefined
                  Dima. @Dima.
                  last edited by

                  @dima when I try to extrude from it, I get response took to long issues raised

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                  • Dima.undefined
                    Dima. @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @phaedrux said in How to diagnose an issue with broken stepper output:

                    M98 P"config.g"

                    M98 returns ->
                    HTTP is enabled on port 80
                    FTP disabled
                    Telnet disabled
                    Error: unknown pin name 'fan0'
                    Error: Fan number 0 not found
                    Error: unknown pin name 'fan1'
                    Error: Fan number 1 not found


                    Also just noticed in consol!
                    Warning: motor phase A may be disconnected reported by driver(s) 5
                    and
                    Warning: motor phase B may be disconnected reported by driver(s) 5

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Can you post the full M122 result from the console tab please?

                      motor phase disconnected can mean exactly that and the wiring it not actually connected to the right phases.

                      Are you able to test that same wiring and motor on another driver successfully?

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                      • Dima.undefined
                        Dima. @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux
                        I have successfully used the stepper motor (w/ the same wiring) from different ports


                        m122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (standalone mode)
                        Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TJ-6J1F6-3SJ6T-TVAUV
                        Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (20 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 149788
                        Dynamic ram: 93140 of which 284 recycled
                        Never used RAM 115620, free system stack 130 words
                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,175) ETHERNET(blocked,109) HEAT(blocked,277) CanReceiv(blocked,927) CanSender(blocked,352) CanClock(blocked,349) TMC(blocked,19) MAIN(running,1123) IDLE(ready,19)
                        Owned mutexes:
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 22:26:15 ago, cause: software
                        Last software reset at 2022-01-31 18:14, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 115868, slot 2
                        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                        Error status: 0x00
                        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                        Aux1 errors 0,0,0
                        MCU temperature: min 41.8, current 44.3, max 45.6
                        Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.0, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        12V rail voltage: min 11.9, current 12.0, max 12.0, under voltage events: 0
                        Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 6966, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                        Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 6966, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                        Driver 2: position 40000, standstill, reads 6961, writes 25 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/126
                        Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 6961, writes 25 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/106
                        Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 6967, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                        Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 6962, writes 25 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
                        Date/time: 2022-02-01 16:40:23
                        Slowest loop: 17.78ms; fastest: 0.05ms
                        === Storage ===
                        Free file entries: 10
                        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 25.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest read time 7.6ms, write time 4.7ms, max retries 0
                        === Move ===
                        DMs created 125, maxWait 19187302ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                        === MainDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 7, completed moves 7, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 4], CDDA state -1
                        === AuxDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 0
                        Movement lock held by null
                        HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        File is idle in state(s) 0
                        USB is idle in state(s) 0
                        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                        SBC is idle in state(s) 0
                        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
                        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty.
                        === Network ===
                        Slowest loop: 45.32ms; fastest: 0.02ms
                        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                        • Ethernet -
                          State: active
                          Error counts: 0 0 0 0 0
                          Socket states: 5 2 2 2 2 0 0 0
                          === CAN ===
                          Messages queued 323102, send timeouts 726977, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          When and where did you purchase your Duet?

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                          • Dima.undefined
                            Dima. @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux I bought the duett board with a 3d printer (used) off FB Marketplace. I bought it last summer (2021), I do not know how long ago the previous owner had the board.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Ah, that does complicate things on the warranty front as we don't know the vendor, it's age, or even if it is genuine. If you can post some photos of the board we may be able to get a better idea of it's provenance. The 6HC is a fairly recent board and only very recently cloned, so I think the likelihood of it being genuine is good.

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @Dima.
                                last edited by

                                @dima if it's black it's a clone and if it's blue it's real

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  Dima. @jay_s_uk
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                                  @jay_s_uk @Phaedrux IMG_20220202_223848452_HDR.jpg

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dima still doing a little digging to see if we can pin down the original purchase of the board to determine warranty status.

                                    Barring that, there are two other options available.

                                    We have some refurbished Duet3 boards that we offer at reduced cost on exchange with the old board.

                                    Or, if that's too expensive an option, and you require all the drivers perhaps using a toolboard for the extruder would be a good option?

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                                    • Dima.undefined
                                      Dima. @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux
                                      would this mean that it is not a software/firmware issue?
                                      Could I be running too old of a firmware? -- even if its 'stable'

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by Phaedrux

                                        No it doesn't seem like a firmware issue. The phase error would indicate there is a connection issue, but you have tested the motor and wiring successfully on a different driver. That would indicate that the driver has failed/damaged.

                                        Though if you'd like to update to 3.3 just in case feel free.

                                        Upload this zip file to the system tab.

                                        https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.3/Duet2and3Firmware-3.3.zip

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                                        • Dima.undefined
                                          Dima. @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux Is there a way to check which chip is broken, such that I could try and replace it?

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            It's likely the driver chip itself but it's hard to tell without any obvious visible damage to point the way.

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