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    KeeganB
    last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 01:35

    I've never downgraded a Duet. Is it the same process as the update from 1.18 to 1.19.2 was, but in reverse?

    Artemis
    Rostock Max v2
    Orion

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      dc42 administrators
      last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 07:17

      I really wish there was some way I could reproduce the problem you are experiencing. AFAIK you are the only user who finds 1.19.2 less reliable than 1.18.

      Downgrading to 1.18 you will need to do a simultaneous install of both DuetWiFiFirmware and DuetWiFiServer. If the board was shipped with 1.19 firmware originally then you will also need to install DuetWiFiFirmware.bin on the WiFi module.

      Then you will need to follow the connection instructions for 1.18 and earlier.

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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        lolorc
        last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 07:55

        i also find 1.19.2 less reliable than 1.8 with regard to the wireless/ajax issue. (sorry I'm not really helping with the debugging at the moment, house for sell, can't use my printer as often as I wish)

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          KeeganB
          last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 15:15

          Thanks David.

          My board was shipped with 1.18.

          I understand that network issues are near impossible to replicate. I wish there was more detailed log info or something I could get to you. I am able to force a reconnect via USB with M552 S-1/S1

          The real frustration comes when doing calibration prints and etc. It disconnects so quickly I can't make any adjustments easily; baby stepping, extrusion, temp etc to do on-the-fly adjustments. That, and every time I want to start a new test print I have to go through the reconnect process every time.

          I feel pretty confident my network is not the issue, but I have been toying with the idea of upgrading my router and other network equipment, so maybe I will do that now just in case. I've also considered taking on my my extra routers and setting up a clean dummy network to test.

          David, is there any possible advantage in doing a "clean" install of 1.19.2. Meaning, could/should I format the SD card and do a completely clean install of everything, and then just paste in my config values as needed?

          Artemis
          Rostock Max v2
          Orion

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            Jarery
            last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 17:38

            @KeeganB:

            Thanks David.
            David, is there any possible advantage in doing a "clean" install of 1.19.2. Meaning, could/should I format the SD card and do a completely clean install of everything, and then just paste in my config values as needed?

            My thoughts also.
            I'm also not happy with 1.19 in regards to 1.18.
            All the additions are awesome, and I always use volumetric extrusion and other features not in 1.18. But if i have no method of connecting to the system the features it has are a moot point.

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              Dougal1957
              last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 17:43

              I Did have an issue to start with which was almost instant disconnects I fitted an AP Extender and got round it but then when I moved the printer back to it rightful location the issue re-appeared turns out my WiFi AP Credentials for the original AP was corrupt deleting them and re-applying fixed the problem not saying it will fix you issues but may be worth a try?

              FWIW I am using a netgear WiFi router (D6400)

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                KeeganB
                last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 17:55

                Sorry Dougal,

                I am not following what you are suggesting? Are you saying the credentials saved to the DUET for connecting to your AP were bad?

                Artemis
                Rostock Max v2
                Orion

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                  Dougal1957
                  last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 18:27

                  yes indeed

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                    KeeganB
                    last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 18:58

                    Thanks, I will certainly try that. It won't hurt anything and if it resolves this issue, Ill be ecstatic!

                    Artemis
                    Rostock Max v2
                    Orion

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                      Dougal1957
                      last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 19:09

                      Use the M588 to remove it from the list first before trying to re-instate it

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                        KeeganB
                        last edited by 26 Sept 2017, 13:04

                        I didn't have much time last night, but I tested your idea Dougal. Nope 😞

                        Artemis
                        Rostock Max v2
                        Orion

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                          Dougal1957
                          last edited by 26 Sept 2017, 17:03

                          I didn't think it would TBH your symptoms are different to what mine were but it was worth a try.

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                            KeeganB
                            last edited by 26 Sept 2017, 17:32

                            Yeah, I wasn't holding much hope, but it was easy enough to give it a shot! Thanks

                            Artemis
                            Rostock Max v2
                            Orion

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                              TimVukman
                              last edited by 28 Sept 2017, 20:10

                              Hi
                              I am jumping in here too as I had written my own post on this issue between last night and today. I will collect some data based on the gcodes posted here that will provide the data. I have not been able to connect today because I upgraded to 1.20.7 and something must have gone wrong because now I can't get the Wifi to initialize.

                              I can say that I never had the connection to the printer drop when I was running 1.18.2. That says the connection from the printer to the network and from the DWC to the printer both had enough signal strength. I will get the numbers if I can.

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                                TimVukman
                                last edited by 29 Sept 2017, 09:21

                                Hi
                                I am going to try to downgrade to 1.18.2 since that is when everything was working properly. I currently can't initialize the Wifi module. Any way to test if it is ok?

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                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by 29 Sept 2017, 14:12

                                  @TimVukman:

                                  Hi
                                  I am jumping in here too as I had written my own post on this issue between last night and today. I will collect some data based on the gcodes posted here that will provide the data. I have not been able to connect today because I upgraded to 1.20.7 and something must have gone wrong because now I can't get the Wifi to initialize.

                                  Did you follow the upgrade instructions at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Upgrading_to_DuetWiFiFirmware_1.19 ? In particular, the but about using M587 to enter your WIFI access point ssid and password.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    KeeganB
                                    last edited by 29 Sept 2017, 14:13

                                    Send M552 S-1

                                    wait for it to complete

                                    Send M552 S1

                                    Try that?

                                    Artemis
                                    Rostock Max v2
                                    Orion

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                                      TimVukman
                                      last edited by 29 Sept 2017, 14:37

                                      Hi dc42
                                      Yes, to the letter.
                                      I'm stuck trying to downgrade back to 1.18.2
                                      Erased the board
                                      tried bossac with the drivers installed.
                                      listcomports returns COM5 - Escher 3D - USB\lots of characters
                                      bossac.exe –p=COM5 -e -w -v -b DuetWifiFirmware returns
                                      No board found on COM5

                                      Frustrated beyond belief

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                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by 29 Sept 2017, 16:31

                                        Why do people insist on erasing the firmware, when it is almost never necessary?

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          TimVukman
                                          last edited by 30 Sept 2017, 14:49

                                          Hi dc42

                                          To be very clear, I did not choose to erase my firmware and never would have.

                                          I am trying to recover from my firmware quitting on it's own. I was trying to setup the IR Probe. The board went from connecting reliably and functioning very nicely to not connecting at all and indicating USB errors.

                                          From there I followed the troubleshooting documentation on the Wiki.

                                          Suggesting that I chose to erase the firmware on my own is not going to help me set the board up so that I can use it.

                                          Perhaps the documentation should be revisited so that it is consistent, located in a single place with suggestions on what to look for to aid in understanding what has gone wrong and flow-charted with a path to follow.

                                          Even better would be a software tool that could be started on the board if not remotely (or set as the temporary boot path on the memory card) that could look at the board / firmware and tell the user if it was ok - ie don't erase me, I'm fine! Even a statement in the installation instructions to the effect of "Don't erase the firmware - it is almost never necessary" would help.

                                          In my other thread last night you indicated that there was a bug in windows that shut down the USB ports if they switched too quickly which would render them looking like they were gone.

                                          Maybe the troubleshooting documentation should have proposed a way to make sure that the ports were properly reset before it suggested the erase / reset course of action. Windows users would never find themselves coming across this bug in the normal usage of windows where USB connects are not frequently even disconnected or changed.

                                          There are a large number of posts on this forum indicating that people are experiencing issues with connections and the 1.19 release of firmware. If the process was functioning properly and properly documented, there would not be so many posts.

                                          The documentation states that the process implemented in this has changed, and upgrading needs to be handled carefully. That would be a good place to include some of the information and suggestions that have come to light - before people like me start troubleshooting the situation based on the physical evidence they are looking at.

                                          I am very understanding and I know well how things do not always go according to plan. I also know that there are frequently unforeseen issues that could not have been predicted that crop up and cause issues. I also would only post as a last resort, which in this case was too late.

                                          I appreciate your assistance and I wish to work through the issue to recover my board.

                                          I am moving slowly in my other thread and documenting everything that is happening, trusting that we will recover the board, so I will not be off trying things on my own that might make sense to me based on what I am seeing.

                                          Tim

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