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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @incurio
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      @incurio said in Part Cooling Fan not working on P6 and P8:

      @incurio unable to post m122 command or config.g file -- being marked as spam.

      Please try again.

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        incurio @Phaedrux
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        m122
        === Diagnostics ===
        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 2.05.1 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later + DueX5
        Board ID: 08DLM-996RU-N85S4-7J1FG-3S86N-KBAVN
        Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (20 max)
        === RTOS ===
        Static ram: 25712
        Dynamic ram: 94712 of which 0 recycled
        Exception stack ram used: 520
        Never used ram: 10128
        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,628) HEAT(blocked,1232) DUEX(suspended,160) MAIN(running,3728) IDLE(ready,160)
        Owned mutexes:
        === Platform ===
        Last reset 15:35:46 ago, cause: power up
        Last software reset at 2022-02-14 21:03, reason: User, spinning module GCodes, available RAM 10412 bytes (slot 1)
        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0xffffffff Task 0x4e49414d
        Error status: 0
        Free file entries: 10
        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
        SD card longest block write time: 0.0ms, max retries 0
        MCU temperature: min 28.2, current 31.6, max 32.5
        Supply voltage: min 24.2, current 24.5, max 24.8, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
        Driver 0: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 1: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 2: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 3: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 4: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 5: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 6: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 7: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 8: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Driver 9: standstill, SG min/max not available
        Date/time: 2022-02-15 14:23:33
        Cache data hit count 4294967295
        Slowest loop: 6.86ms; fastest: 0.07ms
        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
        === Move ===
        Hiccups: 0, FreeDm: 160, MinFreeDm: 160, MaxWait: 0ms
        Bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
        === DDARing ===
        Scheduled moves: 39, completed moves: 39, StepErrors: 0, LaErrors: 0, Underruns: 0, 0
        === Heat ===
        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
        === GCodes ===
        Segments left: 0
        Stack records: 3 allocated, 0 in use
        Movement lock held by null
        http is idle in state(s) 0
        telnet is idle in state(s) 0
        file is idle in state(s) 0
        serial is idle in state(s) 0
        aux is idle in state(s) 0
        daemon is idle in state(s) 0
        queue is idle in state(s) 0
        autopause is idle in state(s) 0
        Code queue is empty.
        === Network ===
        Slowest loop: 202.15ms; fastest: 0.08ms
        Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0) Telnet(0)
        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

        • WiFi -
          Network state is running
          WiFi module is connected to access point
          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 2
          WiFi firmware version 1.23
          WiFi MAC address f4:cf:a2:66:49:8a
          WiFi Vcc 3.35, reset reason Turned on by main processor
          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 22952
          WiFi IP address 192.168.1.20
          WiFi signal strength -63dBm, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
          h tr
          h tr
          h
          tr h
          rt h
          tr h
          tr
          hrt h
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        • incurioundefined
          incurio @incurio
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          @incurio config file.

          ; Configurat; Configuration file for Duet WiFi / Ethernet
          ; executed by the firmware on start-up

          ; General preferences
          M111 S0 ; Debugging off
          G21 ; Work in millimetres
          G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin

          ; Network
          ; Read https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M587_Add_WiFi_host_network_to_remembered_list_or_list_remembered_networks
          M550 P"****" ; Set machine name
          M552 S1 ; Enable Networking
          M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
          M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
          M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet
          M587 "**************"
          M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode

          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 Y1 S3 ; Set X / Y endstop stall detection
          M574 Z1 S2 ; Set Z endstop probe
          M558 P7 X0 Y0 Z2 H3 F360 I0 T20000 ; Set Z probe type to switch, the axes for which it is used and the dive height + speeds
          G31 P200 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
          M557 X10:290 Y20:180 S40 ; Define mesh grid

          ; Drive direction
          M569 P0 S0 ; Drive 0 X
          M569 P1 S0 ; Drive 1 Y
          M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 Z
          M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 E0
          M569 P4 S1 ; Drive 4 E1
          M569 P5 S1 ; Drive 5 E2
          M569 P6 S1 ; Drive 6 E3
          M569 P7 S0 ; Drive 7 COUPLER
          M569 P8 S0 ; Drive 8 UNUSED
          M569 P9 S0 ; Drive 9 UNUSED

          M584 X0 Y1 Z2 C7 E3:4:5:6 ; Apply custom drive mapping
          M208 X-35:328.5 Y-49:243 Z0:300 C0:260 S0 ; Set axis maxima & minima
          M350 C8 I0 ; Configure microstepping without interpolation
          M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16:16:16:16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          ;M92 X100 Y100 Z1600 C100 E830:830:830:444 ; Set steps per mm
          M92 X100 Y100 Z1600 C100 E830:830:830:444 ; Set steps per mm
          M566 X400 Y400 Z8 C2 E2:2:2:2 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X35000 Y35000 Z1200 C5000 E5000:5000:5000:5000 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X6000 Y6000 Z400 C400 E2500:2500:2500:2500 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X2000 Y2000 Z1330 C400 E1400:1400:1400:650 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in percent
          M84 S120 ; Set idle timeout

          ;Stall Detection
          M915 C S5 F0 H200 ; Coupler

          ;Stall Detection
          M915 X Y S5 F0 H400 ; X / Y Axes

          ; Heaters
          ;M305 P0 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700 ; Set thermistor
          ;M143 H0 S225 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 225C
          M305 P0 T100000 B4725 C7.06e-8 ; Set thermistor
          M143 H0 S225 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 225C

          M305 S"T0" P1 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700 ; Set thermistor
          M143 H1 S350 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 350C

          M305 S"T1" P2 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700 ; Set thermistor
          M143 H2 S350 ; Set temperature limit for heater 2 to 350C

          M305 S"T2" P3 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700 ;Set thermistor
          M143 H3 S350 ; Set temperature limit for heater 3 to 350C

          ;M305 S"T3" P4 T500000 B4723 C1.196220e-7 R4700 ; Set thermistor
          M305 S"T3" P4 T100000 B4680 C6.455513e-8 ; 300C thermistor from slice engineering
          M143 H4 S300 ; Set temperature limit for heater 4 to 300C

          ; Tools
          M563 P0 S"T0" D0 H1 F2 ; Define tool 0
          G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Reset tool 0 axis offsets
          G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          M563 P1 S"T1" D1 H2 F4 ; Define tool 1
          G10 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Reset tool 1 axis offsets
          G10 P1 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 1 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          M563 P2 S"T2" D2 H3 F6 ; Define tool 2
          G10 P2 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Reset tool 2 axis offsets
          G10 P2 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 2 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          M563 P3 S"T3" D3 H4 F8 ; Define tool 3
          G10 P3 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Reset tool 3 axis offsets
          G10 P3 R0 S0 ; Reset initial tool 3 active and standby temperatures to 0C

          ; Fans
          M106 P0 S0 ; UNUSED
          M106 P1 S255 H1 T70 ; T0 HE
          M106 P2 S0 ; T0 PCF
          M106 P3 S255 H2 T70 ; T1 HE
          M106 P4 S0 ; T1 PCF
          M106 P5 S255 H3 T70 ; T2 HE
          M106 P6 S0 ; T2 PCF
          M106 P7 S255 H4 T70 ; T3 HE
          M106 P8 S0 ; T3 PCF

          M593 F50 ; cancel ringing at 50Hz (https://forum.e3d-online.com/threads/accelerometer-and-resonance-measurements-of-the-motion-system.3445/)
          ;M376 H15 ; bed compensation taper

          ;tool offsets
          ; !ESTIMATED! offsets for:
          ; V6-tool: X-9 Y39 Z-5
          ; Volcano-tool: X-9 Y39 Z-13.5
          ; Hemera-tool: X-37.5 Y43.5 Z-6

          ;; when you use calibratoin cube for 1mm, make sure x and y ofsets are also set.
          ;; cube should be smack in middle. for correct x and y
          ;; .46 - T1 multi material X orig 6
          ;; .83 - T2 multi material X orig 6

          ;; calibrated x/y offset off of Tool 0 -- using camera
          ;; heat bed when measuring z-offsets!!

          G10 P0 X+6.2 Y41 Z-2.95
          G10 P1 X+6.185 Y41.15 Z-2.95 // was 3.20
          G10 P2 X+5.1 Y40.05 Z-2.86
          G10 P3 X+6.1 Y41.3 Z-2.97

          ;deselect tools
          T-1

          ;M572 D0 S0.2 ; pressure advance T0
          ;M572 D1 S0.2 ; pressure advance T1
          ;M572 D2 S0.2 ; pressure advance T2
          ;M572 D3 S0.2 ; pressure advance T3

          M501; load config-override.g

          nnff, g

          shj df

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          • incurioundefined
            incurio @incurio
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            @incurio had to add some random characters to be able to post without being marked as spam ..

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              It sounds like you found the cause in your other thread.

              https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/27325/duex5-issues-with-fan

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              • incurioundefined
                incurio @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux That was the replacement board that I got -- and it was fried .. not sure how/when that happened.

                I pulled that out and reverted to original board and now another cooling fan not wrking in original. But original doesnt have any burn marks.

                I dont think I know what is the issue -- for ex: is it normal for part fan to read 24v even when not running? what could be causing that?

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @incurio
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                  @incurio said in Part Cooling Fan not working on P6 and P8:

                  is it normal for part fan to read 24v even when not running? what could be causing that?

                  No that is not normal and indicates a failed fan mosfet. That usually happens from a fan with an internal short or shorted wiring, though they can also fail on their own. However given the number of fan issues on multiple boards it seems like it's maybe a fan/wiring issue.

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                  • incurioundefined
                    incurio @incurio
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                    @incurio here is timeline:

                    been printing filaments that dont need part cooling:
                    -- noticed that fan on P6 not powering up.
                    -- verified connections on fan workng ok, then bought a new replacement Duex5
                    -- installed Duex5 fan P6 working , now P8 not working --
                    -- close examination of new Duex5 shows burning -- ask for refund or replacements ( asked to post in this channel )
                    -- put back old Duex5 now fans P6 and P8 not working. same issue Fan volt reads as 24V when not powered on.
                    -- dont know root cause yet -- is this a known issue that can happen to Duex5 ?

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                    • incurioundefined
                      incurio @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux I am not an electrician is this something I could fix? i.e replacing mosfet?

                      what kind of wiring issue might cause mosfet to blow?

                      thx

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                      • incurioundefined
                        incurio @incurio
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                        @incurio I am using the same kind of fans on all the toolheads.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
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                          The mosfets can be replaced if you're handy with hot air or a soldering iron. They are small though.

                          https://docs.duet3d.com/en/User_manual/Troubleshooting/Parts#fan-mosfet

                          Usually it's a fan shorting that can cause them to fail. Positive and negative touching.

                          Fans can sometimes short internally as well. Do all the fans work when connected to voltage directly?

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                          • incurioundefined
                            incurio @Phaedrux
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                            @phaedrux All the fans are working when I use a separate 24v power source.

                            Not being an electrician when I noted there was 24v pwr on bad fan -- I eneded up replacing the wiring on my fan until I realised ( dumb me ) that it should have initially read a value of 0.

                            I didnt realise that the fan itself might short out.. i am using 24v fan winsinn -- I did read some article about them being unreiable fans.

                            What can I do to prevent a short from fan blowing my mosfet?

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