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    CozyP @fcwilt
    last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 11:21

    @fcwilt

    hELLO

    I updated fan 2.

    However I haven't managed to make fan 1, which is the extruder cooler fan stop and turn on when the heater turns on.

    ; Heaters
    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
    M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
    M308 S10 Y"mcu-temp" A"MCU" ; defines sensor 10 as MCU temperature sensor
    M308 S11 Y"drivers" A"Duet stepper drivers" ; defines sensor 11 as stepper driver temperature sensor

    ; Fans
    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
    M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
    M106 P1 S1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
    M950 F2 C"fan2" Q100 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
    M106 P2 H10:11 T40:70 ; set fan 2 value

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      fcwilt @CozyP
      last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 16:52

      @cozyp

      If configure that fan to non-thermostatic control can you then set it's speed using it's DWC fan speed slider?

      Frederick

      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 18:31

        Or send M106 P1 S1 H-1 That should turn it on full blast.

        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          CozyP @fcwilt
          last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 20:27

          @fcwilt I have connected this fan in the non PWM fan output

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            CozyP @Phaedrux
            last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 20:29

            @phaedrux That's the problem. The extruder fan, NOT the part cooling fan is running full blast. Allways. Usually these fans turn on after T45celcius automatically

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 20:51

              Sorry, can you clarify which fan is connected where?

              What happens when you send M106 P1 S1 H-1 ?

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                fcwilt @CozyP
                last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 21:41

                @cozyp said in FAN 0 & FAN 1 allways ON:

                @fcwilt I have connected this fan in the non PWM fan output

                Sorry but I don't understand what you mean by that.

                I was wanting you to verify that whatever output you were using was still working.

                Frederick

                Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  CozyP @Phaedrux
                  last edited by 28 Feb 2022, 20:21

                  @phaedrux @fcwilt

                  Ok. First things first.

                  Phaedrux, I sent M106 on config file. Nothing changed. Fan stays ON no matter what. FAN 1 was added as option on DWC screen, but it cannot be controlled, which is correct, as the fan is connected in a non PWM output.

                  dcwilt, the extruder heater fan and the motherboard fan are connected in a NON PWM output, but they allways stay ON, full blast no matter what....
                  I wanted to turn them on via thermostat, as they should work. Am I missing something???

                  ; Fans
                  M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                  M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                  M106 M106 P1 S1 H-1 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                  M950 F2 C"fan2" Q100 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                  M106 P2 H10:11 T40:70 ; set fan 2 value

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                    CozyP @CozyP
                    last edited by 28 Feb 2022, 20:23

                    ; Heaters
                    M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                    M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                    M307 H0 B1 S1.00 ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                    M140 H0 ; map heated bed to heater 0
                    M143 H0 S120 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                    M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                    M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                    M307 H1 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                    M143 H1 S280 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
                    M308 S10 Y"mcu-temp" A"MCU" ; defines sensor 10 as MCU temperature sensor
                    M308 S11 Y"drivers" A"Duet stepper drivers" ; defines sensor 11 as stepper driver temperature sensor

                    ; Fans
                    M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                    M106 P0 S1 H-1 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                    M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                    M106 M106 P1 H1 T45 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                    M950 F2 C"fan2" Q100 ; create fan 2 on pin fan2 and set its frequency
                    M106 P2 H10:11 T40:70 ; set fan 2 value

                    ; Tools
                    M563 P0 D0 H1 F0 ; define tool 0
                    G10 P0 X-15 Y-15 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

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                      Phaedrux Moderator @CozyP
                      last edited by 28 Feb 2022, 20:59

                      @cozyp said in FAN 0 & FAN 1 allways ON:

                      Phaedrux, I sent M106 on config file. Nothing changed. Fan stays ON no matter what.

                      Yes, M106 P1 S1 H-1 will disable thermostatic control and turn the fan on. Send M106 P1 S0 to turn it off again.

                      @cozyp said in FAN 0 & FAN 1 allways ON:

                      FAN 1 was added as option on DWC screen, but it cannot be controlled, which is correct, as the fan is connected in a non PWM output.

                      Fan1 port is indeed PWM controllable.

                      Fan0, Fan1, Fan2 are controllable. Plus two more always on fan ports.

                      Which are you actually plugged into?

                      Fan0 1 2 can be used as thermostatically controlled or by the slicer to set speed for part cooling.

                      The always on ports are... always on.

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                      If you send M106 P1 S0 and the fan won't turn off, then either it's plugged into a different port than you are expecting, or the fan mosfet has been damaged and failed in the on position.

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                        fcwilt @CozyP
                        last edited by 28 Feb 2022, 21:22

                        @cozyp said in FAN 0 & FAN 1 allways ON:

                        dcwilt, the extruder heater fan and the motherboard fan are connected in a NON PWM output, but they allways stay ON, full blast no matter what....
                        I wanted to turn them on via thermostat, as they should work. Am I missing something???

                        It sounds like you are referring to the "always on" fan outputs - they are not controllable.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          CozyP
                          last edited by 1 Mar 2022, 15:57

                          I have plugged those two fans on the allways ON ports.
                          So, after reading your comments, I assume that they cannot be thermostatically controlled???

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                            fcwilt @CozyP
                            last edited by 1 Mar 2022, 16:46

                            @cozyp said in FAN 0 & FAN 1 allways ON:

                            I have plugged those two fans on the allways ON ports.
                            So, after reading your comments, I assume that they cannot be thermostatically controlled???

                            They cannot be controlled in any way. They provide power to the connected fans when power is supplied to the board.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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